11-26-2012, 12:48 PM
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Or is the scritch what drives you to the hair?

Assuming you could get a Manchurian knot without any of the scratch, but all the rest of the features, would it still be Manchurian or just older Rooney Heritage hair with extra backbone?

Same with Rooney Finest. If you could get the brush without the prickle, would that defeat the point of having the hair?

Just wondering.

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 11-26-2012, 01:26 PM
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Good question ... !

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 11-26-2012, 01:37 PM
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I would like some scritch. In fact I could do with less density and more "scritchity." Then again the only Finest I've used had a really long loft (62mm) so it was tough to figure out exactly how it worked. And I've never used Manchurian.

But I have the Semogue TSN LE and its definitely got scritch, whereas my Colonel in Best doesn't. I like them both and I find I can get them both to work equally efficiently, but, if forced to choose, I prefer the Semogue for the scritch.

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 11-26-2012, 01:38 PM
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Which Rooney Finest comes in 62mm loft? I'd rather have that one.... wanna trade? Biggrin

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 11-26-2012, 08:10 PM
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Curiousity and exclusivity are what initially drive us to buy these expensive hair types, although other's opinions of the face feel definitely help enable or deter us from spending the money at times. For example, if it weren't for Thäter's reputation for having "absolutely no scritch or scrub", I never would have had an interest in getting one. The same has to be said for Manchurian and Finest to some extent. I think scritch and scrub definitely come second to the "cool factor" but are equally important. Heck, I have bought and sold brushes I knew I would hate to begin with, just so I could see what the hype was all about.

It can go either way though, I simply will not buy a Rooney Finest because everyone and their grandmother agree that they are fairly scritchy. I bet some buy it because they want that scritch. It's a toss up!

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 11-26-2012, 08:13 PM
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I have no idea why anyone would Want scritch in a brush. Blush

I'll take soft and velvety any day of the week. Biggrin

To each his own.

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 11-26-2012, 08:20 PM
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I've never tried a manchurian so can't speak to the comparison. I have 3 finest in my collection and they differ quite a bit for being the same hair. My 1/2 is very different than my 2/1 which is very different from my stubby 1. If any of you has a Simpsons manchurian with similar dimensions to one of my finests and is up for a temporary swap I'd be game.

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 11-26-2012, 08:29 PM
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(11-26-2012, 08:20 PM)texaninkc Wrote: I've never tried a manchurian so can't speak to the comparison. I have 3 finest in my collection and they differ quite a bit for being the same hair. My 1/2 is very different than my 2/1 which is very different from my stubby 1. If any of you has a Simpsons manchurian with similar dimensions to one of my finests and is up for a temporary swap I'd be game.

Can you describe how each one is different? I'm really curious now.

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 11-26-2012, 09:23 PM
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(11-26-2012, 08:13 PM)Bruce Wrote: I have no idea why anyone would Want scritch in a brush. Blush

I'll take soft and velvety any day of the week. Biggrin

To each his own.

I like my Mühle Sophist softies 3-bands and I like my scritchy Shavemac 2-band D01's and my Rooney Finest M&F brushes as well - and also them in between these two extreme flexes Wink

I feel like I'm quite flexible when it comes to enjoying different brush flexes....Tongue

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 11-27-2012, 12:23 PM
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(11-26-2012, 08:29 PM)Tonality Wrote:
(11-26-2012, 08:20 PM)texaninkc Wrote: I've never tried a manchurian so can't speak to the comparison. I have 3 finest in my collection and they differ quite a bit for being the same hair. My 1/2 is very different than my 2/1 which is very different from my stubby 1. If any of you has a Simpsons manchurian with similar dimensions to one of my finests and is up for a temporary swap I'd be game.

Can you describe how each one is different? I'm really curious now.

What I mean to say is that the brushes have different characteristics. Knot sizes are different, loft is also very different between the three. So the three finest feel differently because of the knot and loft differences. My 2/1 is not at all scrubby or scritchy or whatever you want to call it. Very soft hair. My 1/2 has some scrub to it but it's not scritchy. The lower loft seems to help here. My stubby is one of the scritchiest brushes I've owned. It definitely wakes me up in the morning. So despite them all being the same hair as far as scritch is concerned they differ a lot.

I think to make an accurate comparison between manchurian and finest hair you might need to compare brushes with the exact same specs.

Or better question I guess is if any manchurian is scritchy. If none are then the hair is different from the finest.

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 11-27-2012, 12:44 PM
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(11-26-2012, 01:38 PM)asharperrazor Wrote: Which Rooney Finest comes in 62mm loft? I'd rather have that one.... wanna trade? Biggrin

Sorry - I sold it in September to churchilllafemme.

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 11-27-2012, 03:30 PM
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(11-27-2012, 12:23 PM)texaninkc Wrote: I think to make an accurate comparison between manchurian and finest hair you might need to compare brushes with the exact same specs.

Well, the hair isn't the same. The commonality between them though is that people who truly love the hair are pretty vocal about how they love the scrub/scritch or prickle. Manchurian & Finest respectively.

Of course, usually someone else will pop in and say that's why they sold the brush.

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 11-27-2012, 05:16 PM
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(11-26-2012, 08:13 PM)Bruce Wrote: I have no idea why anyone would Want scritch in a brush. Blush

I'll take soft and velvety any day of the week. Biggrin

To each his own.

I'm totally with you there Bruce.

M&F Silvertip and EJ Super knots are as scritchy as I can stand (and they have hardly any scritch at all).

I couldn't stand the Rooney Best knot I had as it was too scritchy and am not a fan of standard 2-band or Manchurian knots at all.

I can live with floppiness (although tend to prefer a bit more backbone in my brushes) but just can't tolerate too much scritch or any prickliness at all.

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 11-27-2012, 07:35 PM
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Rooney Finest and Simpson Manchurian are very different types of hair. Rooney Finest hairs seem finer or thinner to me, although incredibly they have more backbone than Manchurian. I find Manchurian to be softer on my face, without scritch at all. Finest is quite scritchy to me.

(11-26-2012, 01:37 PM)jpakstis Wrote: I would like some scritch. In fact I could do with less density and more "scritchity."

Plisson HMW 2-band sounds right up your alley.

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 11-27-2012, 07:48 PM
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(11-27-2012, 07:35 PM)Andrew Wrote: Rooney Finest and Simpson Manchurian are very different types of hair. Rooney Finest hairs seem finer or thinner to me, although incredibly they have more backbone than Manchurian. I find Manchurian to be softer on my face, without scritch at all. Finest is quite scritchy to me.

(11-26-2012, 01:37 PM)jpakstis Wrote: I would like some scritch. In fact I could do with less density and more "scritchity."

Plisson HMW 2-band sounds right up your alley.

But, if you could have them without the scritch, would you prefer them to be scritchless?

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 11-27-2012, 07:51 PM
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Give me scrub but no prickle.

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 11-27-2012, 08:18 PM
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(11-27-2012, 07:51 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: Give me scrub but no prickle.

Definitely this. A scrubby brush with no scritch is prefect.

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 11-27-2012, 08:21 PM
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(11-27-2012, 08:18 PM)Tonality Wrote:
(11-27-2012, 07:51 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: Give me scrub but no prickle.

Definitely this. A scrubby brush with no scritch is prefect.

This is how I find Manchurian.

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 11-27-2012, 08:29 PM
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(11-27-2012, 08:21 PM)Andrew Wrote:
(11-27-2012, 08:18 PM)Tonality Wrote:
(11-27-2012, 07:51 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: Give me scrub but no prickle.

Definitely this. A scrubby brush with no scritch is prefect.

This is how I find Manchurian.

Amazing how different opinions are on this hair. Maybe I should have bought one when I had the chance.

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 11-27-2012, 08:56 PM
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(11-27-2012, 08:29 PM)Tonality Wrote:
(11-27-2012, 08:21 PM)Andrew Wrote:
(11-27-2012, 08:18 PM)Tonality Wrote: Definitely this. A scrubby brush with no scritch is prefect.

This is how I find Manchurian.

Amazing how different opinions are on this hair. Maybe I should have bought one when I had the chance.

You can buy one for 100 GBP. Unless the jubilee brush sold out.

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