12-21-2012, 11:24 AM
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So I thought I could easily stay away from two of the priciest brushes on the market; Rooney Finest and Simpson Manchurian. Even in our hobby where YMMV is king, these 2 particular brushes are universally known to have some scritch. This has made it easy for me to stay away. I much prefer no prickle and very soft tips while maintaining backbone. So give me a Rooney Finest or Simpson Manchurian without the prickle and then I'll be tempted.

Enter in the new threads on the Simpson QEII Manchurian. Now I see gel-like tips being mentioned and I feel myself being pulled in. Can anyone confirm if Simpson has re-done, or reformulated, or received a new batch of hair for Manchurian?

Thanks in advance for flaming the embers of my BAD.

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 12-21-2012, 11:29 AM
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  • MickToley
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Brian, this was discussed not too long ago. Check it out if you haven't.

http://shavenook.com/thread-gel-like-tip...#pid137193

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 12-21-2012, 11:30 AM
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No, I haven't seen that post. I'll take a look now. Thanks Mike!

Edit: well apparently I have since I posted in the thread. Man, my memory must be failing. That and those QEII posts are a bit mesmerizing.

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 12-21-2012, 11:58 AM
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  • MickToley
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I wanted to pull the trigger on the QEII as well , but I'm waiting for those dukes that he posted about.

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 12-21-2012, 12:02 PM
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(12-21-2012, 11:58 AM)MickToley Wrote: I wanted to pull the trigger on the QEII as well , but I'm waiting for those dukes that he posted about.

I just hope some of those Dukes are shipped along with a Lava Lamp!

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 12-21-2012, 01:01 PM
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I have 4 Manchurian's. they are defo not gel like one of my 2XL's is.

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 12-21-2012, 01:05 PM
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I have a few older Manchurians, and their tips are very soft, not scritchy at all, although I wouldn't call them gel-like. I think that individually the vintage Manchurians probably vary a great deal. I know nothing about the new Manchurians.

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 12-21-2012, 02:18 PM
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If the new batch of Manchurian have "gel alike tips" , then are going to be 100% better than the ones I have tried...

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 12-21-2012, 02:21 PM
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I own a Duke 3 Manchurian ButterScotch and a Chubby 2 Manchurian ButterScotch and they are both quite gentle and soft, and you could say they have gel like tips, but not quite as soft as my even softer Duke 3 2-Band and my Chubby 2 2-Band are at the tips, but nothing scritchy about either of my Manchurian brushes, far from !

Both my Manchurians were made in September/October 2012

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 12-21-2012, 06:09 PM
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(12-21-2012, 11:58 AM)MickToley Wrote: ... I'm waiting for those dukes that he posted about.

Me too!

(12-21-2012, 12:02 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: [quote='MickToley' pid='154486' dateline='1356119913']

I just hope some of those Dukes are shipped along with a Lava Lamp!

I want a Lava Lamp too! Tongue

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 12-21-2012, 06:52 PM
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Simpson Manchurian... Scritch or Gel-like?

IMO NIETHER!

The tips of the few that I have are soft, but certainly not ranked among the softest in my collection.

The individual hairs are very robust and that is were the SENSATION or RESISTANCE against the skin comes from.

IMO there is NO: scritch, scratch or prickle!

The hair (for me) is not abrasive in any terms.

Perhaps it's terminology that is leading people to the wrong conclusions. For me, scritch implies a little less than scratch. But in the interests of epistemology that still denotes trauma or injury in my mind.

I have found that some brushes, especially if a low quality hair or even worse a cut hair is employed there is definite scratch. This "exfoliating" quality is appreciated by some, but it's not for me as my face would be left redder than Santa's coat!

Manchurian badger does not badger my skin in the slightest!

However, the brush provides significant feedback against my skin.

For me Manchurian RUBS against my skin, whereas a Kent WIPES across my skin and my Acca Kappa in Pure SCRATCHES away at it.

MY Manchurians are NOT Thater soft and they are NOT scratchy either.

I have Rooney Finest that are similar in many ways. Again they don't scratch my face, but I have gravitated towards the longer lofted ones which certainly has some impact on sensation. I have also been using them for a number of years, which would no doubt impact somewhat on sensation. Although the tips don't split and soften like boar, the badger knot itself is fatigued over time with use and must subsequently soften.

My tastes have also developed over time and as a result my descriptors have adjusted too. I commenced my journey preferring only the softest of brushes and the biggest. Now I'm content with a medium sized knot and dislike anything that doesn't provide some sensation against my skin.

The best description I every encountered for Simpsons Manchurian is Connie's: "Goldilocks."

The hair FOR ME has everything I want and in measured doses...

Not too soft, not too much sensation, not too dense etc etc...

For me IT'S JUST RIGHT.

But of course everyone's experiences are different. Every brush for that matter is going to be different. Everyone's descriptions are going to be different and everyone's interpretation of the meaning of the words used to describe their brushes are going to be different.

There is only one solution IMO...

You need to try it for yourself!

That is why badger brush users go through so many brushes. There is such a range of experiences with badger hair. Variations in loft, density and grade combine in infinite combinations to provide a variety of different encounters from subtle to remarkable.

Simspons Manchurian is a remarkable hair, but many of it's characteristics are subtle rather than in your face, making a definitive description for all to agree on challenging...

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 12-21-2012, 09:54 PM
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(12-21-2012, 06:52 PM)ben74 Wrote: But of course everyone's experiences are different. Every brush for that matter is going to be different. Everyone's descriptions are going to be different and everyone's interpretation of the meaning of the words used to describe their brushes are going to be different.

There is only one solution IMO...

You need to try it for yourself!

That is why badger brush users go through so many brushes. There is such a range of experiences with badger hair. Variations in loft, density and grade combine in infinite combinations to provide a variety of different encounters from subtle to remarkable.

Simspons Manchurian is a remarkable hair, but many of it's characteristics are subtle rather than in your face, making a definitive description for all to agree on challenging...

Amen to that Clap

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 12-21-2012, 11:38 PM
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Well, I ordered a ER II. So I will know when I used it...

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 12-21-2012, 11:46 PM
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(12-21-2012, 11:38 PM)German Wrote: Well, I ordered a ER II. So I will know when I used it...

Er... I ordered the QE II, so your's will be different again! Tongue

(Please don't take offence, as there is none intended, just making fun is all!)

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 12-22-2012, 04:54 AM
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My QEII tips are more "Gel like" than my Stubby 1, its giving the 1st issue Blond Badger a run for its money as far as best 2 band goes.....

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 12-22-2012, 06:44 AM
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Elisabeth Regina... Smile

(12-21-2012, 11:46 PM)ben74 Wrote:
(12-21-2012, 11:38 PM)German Wrote: Well, I ordered a ER II. So I will know when I used it...

Er... I ordered the QE II, so your's will be different again! Tongue

(Please don't take offence, as there is none intended, just making fun is all!)

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 12-22-2012, 06:50 AM
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Very clever my friend! Winky

(12-22-2012, 06:44 AM)German Wrote: Elisabeth Regina... Smile

(12-21-2012, 11:46 PM)ben74 Wrote:
(12-21-2012, 11:38 PM)German Wrote: Well, I ordered a ER II. So I will know when I used it...

Er... I ordered the QE II, so your's will be different again! Tongue

(Please don't take offence, as there is none intended, just making fun is all!)

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 12-22-2012, 11:00 AM
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(12-22-2012, 06:44 AM)German Wrote: Elisabeth Regina... Smile

(12-21-2012, 11:46 PM)ben74 Wrote:
(12-21-2012, 11:38 PM)German Wrote: Well, I ordered a ER II. So I will know when I used it...

Er... I ordered the QE II, so your's will be different again! Tongue

(Please don't take offence, as there is none intended, just making fun is all!)

Clever, but the proper terminology would actually be Elizabeth Regnant.

Old straight razors are actually stamped with this terminology. Not during Elizabeth's reign, but during her father's and Victoria's and several other monarchs.

VR is the most common as she had a very long reign.

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 12-22-2012, 10:41 PM
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No scritch in my chubby 3 Manchurian that was made in the past 2 months.

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 12-23-2012, 03:50 AM
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My T 3 Manchurian ButterScotch received Dec 20, 2012, the tips are very soft, not scratchy at all. I used it yesterday for 1st time (face lather) and it is gel like quit soft and gentle on my face with a lot of backbone. This brush is going to be my daily brush.

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