12-21-2012, 08:36 PM
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  • Shaun
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Hi All

Any idea how to date this little Xmas gift to myself? Smile

Shaun

                   

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 12-21-2012, 08:45 PM
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  • Arcadies
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I'm not sure if maybe my browser is acting up or what, but those pics are coming up extraordinarily tiny.

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 12-21-2012, 08:50 PM
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  • Shaun
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(12-21-2012, 08:45 PM)Arcadies Wrote: I'm not sure if maybe my browser is acting up or what, but those pics are coming up extraordinarily tiny.

Damn. They are not my pictures; I was posted them from the source. I am not sure there is anything I can do; maybe take some photos myself when I work out what to do. I am no newbie to wet shaving, but to this site. Everywhere you go, have to learn a whole new set of skills, sigh.

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 12-21-2012, 08:57 PM
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  • Teiste
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I wish Mr Gary Young will pop up and give us more info about this brush.

Nice catch , sir !

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 12-21-2012, 09:03 PM
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(12-21-2012, 08:57 PM)Teiste Wrote: I wish Mr Gary Young will pop up and give us more info about this brush.

Nice catch , sir !

Can you see the brush ok then? The font is not going to be visible, I realise as I am told the images are small, so I will post more when I take proper photos. The font used in the lamp black is going to be indicative. I don't know if this brush is 50s 60s 70s or 80s. Judging by the font I'd say earlier, but I have no idea, or how to guesstimate the ageing of the catalin. (does anyone here have any idea, strength of UV light aside, if that can be done?) Have you seen one of these before? I am sure they are reasonably common, but I have never seen one anyway, not in real life or even in pictures.

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 12-21-2012, 09:05 PM
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That's a good looking brush. Congratulations.

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 12-21-2012, 09:45 PM
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  • Teiste
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Shaun , the images are very small , but I just zoom them.

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 12-21-2012, 09:51 PM
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 12-21-2012, 11:19 PM
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  • Teiste
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Thank you , Steve.

That brush seems to be smaller than the current Duke 3 in best badger , or maybe is my perception of it.Nice brush indeed.

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 12-21-2012, 11:28 PM
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  • Shaun
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess as to the vintage?

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 12-22-2012, 07:07 AM
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  • ben74
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(04-20-2012, 05:04 AM)Gary Young Wrote: An easy way for you guys to see this isn't a 1930s brush is the Simpson decal. If it was a 1930s brush it would have 'Made in London' not 'Made in England' on the decal. Brushes after our move following the factory bombing in 1941 have 'Made in England'.

Gary

So according to Gary it's post 1941.

Further it's obviously Catalin and handles produced between 1938 and 1946 were widely made from Catalin.

(Catalin is a phenolic plastic and originally white. Catalin assumes its Butterscotch colour over time due to exposure to ultraviolet light which gradually converts the phenolic resin into phenyl alcohol, which is brown in colour.)

Also, "Duke" was Gary's Great Uncle Alex's family nickname...

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 12-22-2012, 02:34 PM
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(12-22-2012, 07:07 AM)ben74 Wrote:
(04-20-2012, 05:04 AM)Gary Young Wrote: An easy way for you guys to see this isn't a 1930s brush is the Simpson decal. If it was a 1930s brush it would have 'Made in London' not 'Made in England' on the decal. Brushes after our move following the factory bombing in 1941 have 'Made in England'.

Gary

So according to Gary it's post 1941.

Further it's obviously Catalin and handles produced between 1938 and 1946 were widely made from Catalin.

(Catalin is a phenolic plastic and originally white. Catalin assumes its Butterscotch colour over time due to exposure to ultraviolet light which gradually converts the phenolic resin into phenyl alcohol, which is brown in colour.)

Also, "Duke" was Gary's Great Uncle Alex's family nickname...


Thanks Ben, interesting. I do know that Gary has said that Catalin was still used by Simpsons up to the 80s...but this one is a rich colour, that's for sure. It is difficult to tell for sure, but the font might also be indicative. It is sans-serif on the front of the handle, yet one-stroke lettering on the back. I'm stumped. Yes, post-1941 certainly, but let's split it down the middle roughly and say 1960??
Would there be any further lamp black under the decal do you think?

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 12-23-2012, 12:25 PM
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Very cool brush, and a great story too. Gotta love a great brush with a great story!

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 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM
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Mid 1960s brush from Nimmer. So handle turned by Stan Archer and knot made by either Beryl Parsons or Stan. Hope that's enough info for you...

Gary

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 01-11-2013, 02:09 PM
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  • Teiste
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(01-11-2013, 02:05 PM)Gary Young Wrote: Mid 1960s brush from Nimmer. So handle turned by Stan Archer and knot made by either Beryl Parsons or Stan. Hope that's enough info for you...

Gary

Gary :

such a pleasure to see you posting great info like that.Please , reconsider to be away from this forum , since we all truly appreciate your post and info.

Thank you so much.

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 01-11-2013, 02:13 PM
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(01-11-2013, 02:05 PM)Gary Young Wrote: Mid 1960s brush from Nimmer. So handle turned by Stan Archer and knot made by either Beryl Parsons or Stan. Hope that's enough info for you...

Gary

Awesome post Smile Good to see you here Gary.

Wish I has that brush now!

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 01-11-2013, 02:56 PM
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  • Shaun
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Thank you so much Gary. My guess was good then!

Shaun

PS I used it this morning with TOBS sandalwood and there was so much lather I shaved 4 passes just to use it all up ha! (my face feels like glass...). What an excellent brush it is, and takes pride of place in my Simpson collection. It doesn't feel like a more recent modern best badger, even in the Duke. It's a little floppier and more yielding; IMO it feels nicer and more luxurious, and handles brilliantly. The bloom is just beautiful.

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