01-01-2013, 11:36 AM
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This Joris&Fatip lovers thread is for chatting or reviewing all things Joris or Fatip related and a list of all the different handles that fit the FaTip razor. You must include pics. Tell us Nook members why these razors are already modern living legends. Below is a list of all the handles that either fit or don't fit the FaTip razor




These are the handles that either fit or don't fit the FaTip Razor

NOTE: These listings will change daily, see end of thread for updated list. So far this is the latest findings as of **January/23/2013...


NOTE: These listings will change daily please see end of thread for updated list. So far this is the latest findings as of **January/12/2013...

1) Fatip Grande Nickel :
Do fits : 1) Tradere,2) Edwin Jagger DE8, 3) Gillette Fat Tech handle, 4) Gillette New Comb, 5) Weber Bulldog, 6) Weber classic, 7) UFO-Godzilla 8) Parker 91r
9) Parker 48r, 11) Ikon Bulldog ( some members say it fits), 12) Gillette Old OC 1909 ABC Handle, 13) UFO Goliath Handle, 14) 7o'clock OC Handle(Made In England), 15) UFO/Kaiser, 16) Sabi Fat Handle, 17) GS1 Handle,18) Weber classic (DLC version),
Do not fit :Ikon Bulldog, Muelle R41,Weber bulldog and Tradere (1st release)
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2) Fatip Piccolo :
Do fit: 1) Weber Bulldog handle, 2) Tradere, 3) Ikon OSS , 4) UFO Kaiser, 5) Feather AS D1, 6) Gillette New Fat Handle, 7) Gillette Fat TEch Handle, 8) Parker 98R, ---
9) IKON Bulldog *( some say it dont fit), 10) UFO-Godzilla, 11) Edwin Jagger DE89, 12) Gillette 7'oclock (GB), 13) Gillette New OC LC ball end gold plated (GB), 14) Gillette New OC LC ball end Sheffield/Laurel (GB), 15) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 16) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 17) Gillette Tech fat handle (GB), 18) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB), 19) Gillette Tech straight aluminum, 20) IKon Bulldog handle -( fits, but loose until the final turn), 21) Lord L6 , 22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel), 23) Mühle R41 2011, 24) Tradere, 25) Sabi Fat handle, 26) GS1 handle

Do not fit: 1) Mariner long handle, 2) R41 Grande handle, 3)Ikon Bulldog, 4) EJ DE89, 5) Gillette New OC LC ball end silver plated (GB), 6) Gillette Tech ball end aluminum, 7) Gillette Tech ball end brass/nickel, 8) Gillette Tech black bakelite ,

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3) Fatip Grande Chrome :

Do fit: 1)Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL, 2) Weber Bulldog, 3) *Ikon Bulldog(some say it wont fit)*, 4) Tradere (many members say it fits), 6) UFO-Godzilla, 7) 7 oclock,
8) Gillette New OC, 9) LC ball end gold plated (GB), 10) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 11) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 12) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),
13) Gillette Tech straight aluminum, 14) Lord L6 , 15) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle), 16) Parker 98R, 17) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - (Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up ), 18) 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole, 19)SABI Fat Handle, 20) GS1 handle, 21) Ikon OSS handle,22)ATT/Atlas Handle,23)UFO Kaiser Short (fits Short as well as standard length Kaiser handle)

Do not fit : Tradere Handle(on some, many do fit), Edwin Jagger Bulbous Chrome handle
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4) Fatip Grande Gold :

Do fit : 1) Feather AS, 2) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe / Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently, 3)UFO-Godzilla, 4) Sabi fat handle, 5) Gs1

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***Handle and FATIP Razor specs Section***:


Razor Specs:

1) Fatip Grande Nickel: Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/ ( Thread 4.35)
2) Fatip Piccolo : Handle length 70 mm/ WT 72 g/ Heavier than others
3) Fatip Grande Chrome : Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/ ( Thread measure 4.38mm)-Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length
4) Fatip Grande Gold : Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/


HANDLES SPECS:


1) Tradere ( head 4.80, WT 66 gm)
2) Edwin Jagger DE89 ( threads 4.89mm)- whole razor Weight = 76g
3) Gillette Fat Tech handle
4) Gillette New Comb- Gillette Bar Handle/SC New =WT 20.4/ - Gillette Ball Handle /LC New = WT 24.7
5) Weber Bulldog (needs 2 extra turns for fit), 2.4 ounces / 3 inch long /
6) Weber Classic- wt 58 gms ........3-7/8" in length (9.8 cm)
6) Weber 'New' Classic -wt 76 gms
7) Ikon Bulldog,
8) Ikon OSS [head 4.85- wt 100 gms - 95mm long - 12.25mm diameter] (works but is loose until the final turn) ,
9) UFO Kaiser (polished SS, 100mm lg, 13mm diameter, 91 grams wt)
10) Mariner long handle razor weighs in at 2.4 oz . The handle is 3" long.

11) R41 Grande handle ( whole razor WT 35.5)
12) Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL,
13) Feather AS. ( whole razor Wt 90 gms / 3 1/2 in long)
14) UFO-Godzilla (316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.
Thread is M5x0.8.The neck ends to 8.5 mm)
15) UFO Goliath XL- 316L Stainless Steel. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 123 gr weight./Red Bronze. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. ??? gr weight (pending)./Thread is M5x0.8. 16) Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole handle (89 gm).
17) lord 16
18) LC ball end gold plated (GB)
18) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US),
19) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US),

20) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),
21) Gillette Tech straight aluminum,
22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle),

23) Parker 98R ( 4" handle and weighs 3 oz. whole razor wt)

24) Parker 91r (handle length 99mm, weight 80g (head+handle)
25) Parker 48R (handle length 91 mm, weight 96g (head+handle)
26) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe XL- (93 grams/ 96mm long, 13mm diameter on the main handle and 15mm diameter on the magnetic knob on the end.)
27) UFO Goliath - 316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber./ 103 gr weight.Red Bronze. 85 mm long./ 15/15 mm caliber./ 115 gr weight/Thread is M5x0.8


28) Gillette 7'oclock (GB)
29) Gillette New OC LC ball end gold plated (GB)

30) Gillette New OC LC ball end Sheffield/Laurel (GB)
31) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US)
32) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US)
33) Gillette Tech fat handle (GB)
34) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB)
35) Gillette Tech straight aluminum
36) iKon Bulldog handle
37) Lord L6
38) ATT/Atlas handle- Whole razor weighs in at 95 grams, total length is 3 1/4" while the handle is 3" long, 303 Stainless steel
39)Parker 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole Whole razor Length: 10.8 cm Weight: 121g
40)Sabi fat handle - 3 1/4 in long, wt 2.5 oz

41) GS1 - 3 1/2 inches long, 1/2 inch in diameter and weighs in at 80 grams. Where the handle meets the head is 8.5mm and should fit most razor heads as the threads are M5x0.8.

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 01-01-2013, 04:47 PM
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Any Fatip or Joris lovers out there? Tell me about it, come on now!!

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 01-01-2013, 05:15 PM
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I'm sure Doug will be joining the thread soon!

I had 3 FaTips all mated with iKon handles, I'm now down to one; a gold coloured FaTip head paired with an iKon gold plated tech style handle - very yummy!

       

The Joris for me is certainly the smoother shaver and by far. The extreme price difference is justifiable IMO as these razors are as much a piece of art as they are an effective tool. I have 3 Joris razors: the retro black and white pinstripe, horn and rosewood. I plan to add an all palladium in the future.

   

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 01-01-2013, 05:24 PM
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(01-01-2013, 05:15 PM)ben74 Wrote: I'm sure Doug will be joining the thread soon!

I had 3 FaTips all mated with iKon handles, I'm now down to one; a gold coloured FaTip head paired with an iKon gold plated tech style handle - very yummy!

The Joris for me is certainly is the smoother shaver and by far. The extreme price difference is justifiable IMO as these razors are as much a piece of art as they are an effective tool.

I have 3 Joris razors: the retro black and white pinstripe, horn and rosewood. I plan to add an all palladium in the future.
I agree, i call it functional artwork. The razor is made to cut but also to look at. I compare it to a Lamborghini or Rolls Royce, both are beautiful to look at but better when you drive them.

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 01-01-2013, 05:34 PM
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Form follows function...

   

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 01-01-2013, 05:47 PM
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(01-01-2013, 05:34 PM)ben74 Wrote: Form follows function...
Wow, those pinstripes look sweeter on that Joris than on a Calvin Klein suit.

(01-01-2013, 05:34 PM)ben74 Wrote: Form follows function...
Ben , did you have that brush made?

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 01-01-2013, 06:45 PM
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(01-01-2013, 05:47 PM)alex2363 Wrote: Wow, those pinstripes look sweeter on that Joris than on a Calvin Klein suit.

I must agree Alex, they sure do look smart!

(01-01-2013, 05:47 PM)alex2363 Wrote: Ben , did you have that brush made?

Yes, Mr Sabini kindly obliged!

They certainly make a nice pair...

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 01-01-2013, 07:16 PM
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Holy cow, Ben, every time i see that striped combo, i am amazed!

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 01-01-2013, 07:40 PM
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Nice looking Joris razors.

I had a Fatip Piccolo. I got a good shave from it, but it wasn't as smooth as my Old Type.

I think I might have given up on it too quickly and am thinking about another one.

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 01-01-2013, 08:00 PM
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(01-01-2013, 07:40 PM)PanChango Wrote: Nice looking Joris razors.

I had a Fatip Piccolo. I got a good shave from it, but it wasn't as smooth as my Old Type.

I think I might have given up on it too quickly and am thinking about another one.
Dale, i wouldn't hesitate, they do require a little adjustment but not substantial like the R41 learning curve needs.

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 01-01-2013, 08:09 PM
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I have a similar brush from ELITE Razors....ZEBRA stripe...out of stock now but a real bargain 24mm knot and only $64.00. Check out at Bullgoose the Joris 1922T which is a braided pattern palladium (or herringbone)a real heavy weight and beautiful just to look at.Like all Joris a real treasure.CoolSmile

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 01-01-2013, 08:13 PM
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(01-01-2013, 08:09 PM)Harvey Wrote: I have a similar brush from ELITE Razors....ZEBRA stripe...out of stock now but a real bargain 24mm knot and only $64.00. Check out at Bullgoose the Joris 1922T which is a braided pattern palladium (or herringbone)a real heavy weight and beautiful just to look at.Like all joris a real treasure.CoolSmile
Phil does have good gear...is the brush Silver tip?

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 01-01-2013, 08:17 PM
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(01-01-2013, 08:13 PM)alex2363 Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 08:09 PM)Harvey Wrote: I have a similar brush from ELITE Razors....ZEBRA stripe...out of stock now but a real bargain 24mm knot and only $64.00. Check out at Bullgoose the Joris 1922T which is a braided pattern palladium (or herringbone)a real heavy weight and beautiful just to look at.Like all joris a real treasure.CoolSmile
Phil does have good gear...is the brush Silver tip?

Absolutely...the brush was from ELITE...an amazing soap spreader.Look under Neo-Resinate Brushes

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 01-02-2013, 06:55 PM
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(01-01-2013, 08:17 PM)Harvey Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 08:13 PM)alex2363 Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 08:09 PM)Harvey Wrote: I have a similar brush from ELITE Razors....ZEBRA stripe...out of stock now but a real bargain 24mm knot and only $64.00. Check out at Bullgoose the Joris 1922T which is a braided pattern palladium (or herringbone)a real heavy weight and beautiful just to look at.Like all joris a real treasure.CoolSmile
Phil does have good gear...is the brush Silver tip?
Thanks, i just booked marked his site for future reference.

Absolutely...the brush was from ELITE...an amazing soap spreader.Look under Neo-Resinate Brushes

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 01-02-2013, 07:10 PM
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(01-01-2013, 08:09 PM)Harvey Wrote: I have a similar brush from ELITE Razors....ZEBRA stripe...out of stock now but a real bargain 24mm knot and only $64.00. Check out at Bullgoose the Joris 1922T which is a braided pattern palladium (or herringbone)a real heavy weight and beautiful just to look at.Like all Joris a real treasure.CoolSmile

Thank you Harvey. I have been thinking of adopting one for myself. Cool

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 01-02-2013, 07:14 PM
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(01-02-2013, 07:10 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 08:09 PM)Harvey Wrote: Check out at Bullgoose the Joris 1922T which is a braided pattern palladium (or herringbone)a real heavy weight and beautiful just to look at.Like all Joris a real treasure.CoolSmile

Thank you Harvey. I have been thinking of adopting one for myself. Cool

It's caught my eye too !!!

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 01-02-2013, 11:00 PM
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All Fatip/Joris lovers gang and Nookers, can you name and describe what handles fits your model Joris/Fatip razor. Also include the dimensions, sizes, or any other quirks or tricks that each handle may require. I know some members say some handle require extra turns or less turning, and or breaking in the thread etc.Smile

NOTE: These listings will change daily, see end of thread for updated list. So far this is the latest findings as of **January/03/2013...

1) Fatip Grande Nickel :
Do fits : 1) Tradere,2) Edwin Jagger DE8, 3) Gillette Fat Tech handle, 4) Gillette New Comb, 5) Weber Bulldog, 6) Weber classic, 7) UFO-Godzilla 8) Parker 91r
9) Parker 48r, 11) Ikon Bulldog ( some members say it fits), 12) Gillette Old OC 1909 ABC Handle, 13) UFO Goliath Handle, 14) 7o'clock OC Handle(Made In England), 15) UFO/Kaiser, 16) Sabi Fat Handle, 17) GS1 Handle
Do not fit :Ikon Bulldog, Muelle R41
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2) Fatip Piccolo :
Do fit: 1) Weber Bulldog handle, 2) Tradere, 3) Ikon OSS , 4) UFO Kaiser, 5) Feather AS D1, 6) Gillette New Fat Handle, 7) Gillette Fat TEch Handle, 8) Parker 98R, ---
9) IKON Bulldog *( some say it dont fit), 10) UFO-Godzilla, 11) Edwin Jagger DE89, 12) Gillette 7'oclock (GB), 13) Gillette New OC LC ball end gold plated (GB), 14) Gillette New OC LC ball end Sheffield/Laurel (GB), 15) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 16) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 17) Gillette Tech fat handle (GB), 18) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB), 19) Gillette Tech straight aluminum, 20) IKon Bulldog handle -( fits, but loose until the final turn), 21) Lord L6 , 22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel), 23) Mühle R41 2011, 24) Tradere, 25) Sabi Fat handle, 26) GS1 handle

Do not fit: 1) Mariner long handle, 2) R41 Grande handle, 3)Ikon Bulldog, 4) EJ DE89, 5) Gillette New OC LC ball end silver plated (GB), 6) Gillette Tech ball end aluminum, 7) Gillette Tech ball end brass/nickel, 8) Gillette Tech black Bakelite ,

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3) Fatip Grande Chrome :

Do fit: 1)Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL, 2) Weber Bulldog, 3) *Ikon Bulldog(some say it wont fit)*, 4) Tradere (many members say it fits), 6) UFO-Godzilla, 7) 7 oclock,
8) Gillette New OC, 9) LC ball end gold plated (GB), 10) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 11) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 12) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),
13) Gillette Tech straight aluminium, 14) Lord L6 , 15) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle), 16) Parker 98R, 17) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - (Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up ), 18) 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barberpole, 19) Sabi Fat Handle, 20) GS1 handle, 20) Ikon OSS handle

Do not fit : Tradere Handle(on some, many do fit)
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4) Fatip Grande Gold :

Do fit : 1) Feather AS, 2) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe / Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently, 3)UFO-Godzilla, 4) Sabi fat handle, 5) Gs1

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***Handle and FATIP Razor specs Section***:


Razor Specs:

1) Fatip Grande Nickel: Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/ ( Thread 4.35)
2) Fatip Piccolo : Handle length 70 mm/ WT 72 g/ Heavier than others
3) Fatip Grande Chrome : Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/ ( Thread measure 4.38mm)-Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length
4) Fatip Grande Gold : Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/


HANDLES SPECS:


1) Tradere ( head 4.80, WT 66 gm)
2) Edwin Jagger DE89 ( threads 4.89mm)- whole razor Weight = 76g
3) Gillette Fat Tech handle
4) Gillette New Comb- Gillette Bar Handle/SC New =WT 20.4/ - Gillette Ball Handle /LC New = WT 24.7
5) Weber Bulldog (needs 2 extra turns for fit), 2.4 ounces / 3 inch long /
6) Weber Classic- wt 58 gms ........3-7/8" in length (9.8 cm)
6) Weber 'New' Classic -wt 76 gms
7) Ikon Bulldog,
8) Ikon OSS [head 4.85- wt 100 gms - 95mm long - 12.25mm diameter] (works but is loose until the final turn) ,
9) UFO Kaiser (polished SS, 100mm lg, 13mm diameter, 91 grams wt)
10) Mariner long handle

11) R41 Grande handle ( whole razor WT 35.5)
12) Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL,
13) Feather AS. ( whole razor Wt 90 gms / 3 1/2 in long)
14) UFO-Godzilla (316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.
Thread is M5x0.8.The neck ends to 8.5 mm)
15) UFO Goliath XL- 316L Stainless Steel. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 123 gr weight./Red Bronze. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. ??? gr weight (pending)./Thread is M5x0.8. 16) Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole handle (89 gm).
17) lord 16
18) LC ball end gold plated (GB)
18) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US),
19) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US),

20) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),
21) Gillette Tech straight aluminum,
22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle),

23) Parker 98R ( 4" handle and weighs 3 oz. whole razor wt)

24) Parker 91r (handle length 99mm, weight 80g (head+handle)
25) Parker 48R (handle length 91 mm, weight 96g (head+handle)
26) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe XL- (93 grams/ 96mm long, 13mm diameter on the main handle and 15mm diameter on the magnetic knob on the end.)
27) UFO Goliath - 316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber./ 103 gr weight.Red Bronze. 85 mm long./ 15/15 mm caliber./ 115 gr weight/Thread is M5x0.8


28) Gillette 7'oclock (GB)
29) Gillette New OC LC ball end gold plated (GB)

30) Gillette New OC LC ball end Sheffield/Laurel (GB)
31) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US)
32) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US)
33) Gillette Tech fat handle (GB)
34) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB)
35) Gillette Tech straight aluminum
36) iKon Bulldog handle
37) Lord L6
38) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle)
39)Parker 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole
40)Sabi fat handle

41) GS1 - 3 1/2 inches long, 1/2 inch in diameter and weighs in at 80 grams. Where the handle meets the head is 8.5mm and should fit most razor heads as the threads are M5x0.8.

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 01-02-2013, 11:21 PM
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I've had 3 Fatips all with the same and more common larger thread size. My Joris razors have the smaller and less common thread.

I owned a FaTip Piccolo which I purchased from Greg with an iKon Bulldog handle that fit perfectly. This handle (as far as I can tell was stock standard and without modification to fit).

I also owned the Grande that I purchased from a UK based ebay seller and I paired this with an iKon handle too, but this time it was the Bamboo.

I can't remember exactly which head, but one of these two FaTip heads wouldn't tighten all the way when the Bulldog and Bamboo handles were swapped.

I still own a gold coloured FaTip purchased from the same ebay retailer in the UK (but months apart). I paired this again with an iKon handle, this time a gold plated tech style.

The gold coloured FaTip fits my entire range of UFO handles, including the U1.

I recall often when trying a range of handles with the first two FaTip heads it would feel a little loose to begin with, but then would generally tighten up or not screw in completely.

I've only ever been able to pair my Joris heads with Joris handles.

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 01-03-2013, 05:45 AM
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As they say, pics or it didn't happen...
   
FaTip head (Piccolo handle in front and Grande at rear) with iKon Bulldog handle

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 01-03-2013, 06:14 AM
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Alex,

I am considering one of these razors. Can you tell me how it handles and shave to, say, a Gillette SC NEW?

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