01-03-2013, 11:22 PM
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Aside from the fact that silvertip can be split into two distinct grades and the fact that there is a grade above HMW that doesn't have it's own name, the dog badger is pretty well differentiated.

Pure, best, silvertip, HMW.

Not so with 2 band hair from the hog badger. Universally termed Finest hair, the term encompasses the entirety of all the grades of hair except black badger.

There are 6 separate grades of 2 band hair. However, most of them are pretty similar to each other so there's really only 4 or 5.

But that still presents the problem. What should they be called?

As an ancillary question, what should the grade above HMW be called? HMW+? Plisson makes no distinction.

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 01-03-2013, 11:47 PM
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Do the lengths of the tips or black strands differ among the grades? That could be something to go on.

Maybe coloration difference? My TGN and old Semogue 2bands were rather yellow, but I know I have seen whiter.

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 01-04-2013, 02:07 AM
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I'm going to get another glass of wine...

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 01-04-2013, 02:28 AM
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There are already several ways to classify grades of badger hair…

Colourful ones (“Black/blonde/grey/white badger”)
Geographical ones (“Manchurian badger, European badger”)
Comic book ones (meet the Amazing “Super Badger”)
Presumptuous ones (I’m simply the “Best Badger”)
Odd ones (what on earth is Finest?)

Maybe something completely new this time? Any ideas? TongueLaughing1

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 01-04-2013, 05:18 AM
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I will be call it "two band badger" and thats it. Most of other brush makers don't really bother to classified the different types of two band hair , unless are special grades , like Manchurian or Finest.
But even Plisson makes no difference with a 3 band HMW or a 2 band , and are called , HMW... and the same in the case of the European White.

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 01-12-2013, 02:40 PM
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(01-04-2013, 02:28 AM)oversaturn Wrote: There are already several ways to classify grades of badger hair…

Colourful ones (“Black/blonde/grey/white badger”)
Geographical ones (“Manchurian badger, European badger”)
Comic book ones (meet the Amazing “Super Badger”)
Presumptuous ones (I’m simply the “Best Badger”)
Odd ones (what on earth is Finest?)

Maybe something completely new this time? Any ideas? TongueLaughing1

The purists ("pure badger" ;p)

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 01-14-2013, 07:42 PM
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After seeing the Simpsons brush memorabilia thread tonight, "superfine badger" may be just the ticket.

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 01-14-2013, 08:04 PM
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I like Superfine too!

Then there's also things like...

Vesuvius Badger -- hot water not needed
Atlantian Badger -- very little water needed
Asgardian Badger -- careful with this one, if not worthy you won't be able to lift it
Elysian Badger -- badgers did die to make the brush
Olympian Badger -- on second thought maybe not, they all had beards

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 01-14-2013, 09:45 PM
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Haha...We could make a little jingle ala Burma Shave to explain the Superfine Grade.

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 01-14-2013, 10:26 PM
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(01-14-2013, 07:42 PM)cessnabird Wrote: After seeing the Simpsons brush memorabilia thread tonight, "superfine badger" may be just the ticket.

Another vote for that ! Superfine badger sounds brilliant to me if you want to advertise/named a type of badger hair.

@ Brian : Biggrin great names too Smile

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 01-15-2013, 05:41 AM
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Ideally you'd use the same names as you would with 3 band apart from calling the top tier HMW.

In reality, the quality/grades don't need a name. The price will usually give you a good indicator when it comes to big brands.

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 01-15-2013, 05:47 AM
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Sandpaper grits? Rolleyes

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 01-15-2013, 06:00 AM
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I am still learning all this badger vocabulary so I'm thinking, wouldn't it be nice to have some sort of chart with badger grades (including what is asked here) and pictures in the wiki ?

It would be useful to have too for those times when you are in doubt before some SBAD hits you and the B/S/T forum.

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 01-15-2013, 06:14 AM
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(01-15-2013, 06:00 AM)bzhgeek Wrote: I am still learning all this badger vocabulary so I'm thinking, wouldn't it be nice to have some sort of chart with badger grades (including what is asked here) and pictures in the wiki ?

It would be useful to have too for those times when you are in doubt before some SBAD hits you and the B/S/T forum.

Unfortunately there is no standard amongst the manufacturers regarding names so that kind of chart could get messy & confusing easily. I do think it's possible though.

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 01-15-2013, 06:14 AM
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Bleached, processed and flagged pure?

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 01-15-2013, 06:19 AM
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(01-15-2013, 06:14 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: Unfortunately there is no standard amongst the manufacturers regarding names so that kind of chart could get messy & confusing easily. I do think it's possible though.

Oh, this is one thing I have understood ! Biggrin

But putting it down "on paper" with the brands references would be even more useful.

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 01-15-2013, 06:22 AM
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'Superfine Badger'

Maybe we could engrave our two banders with this annotation ... hmmmmmmmm.

... *boards plane & jets to Intellectual Property Office* ...

You guys Wink

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 01-15-2013, 07:08 AM
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(01-14-2013, 08:04 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: I like Superfine too!

Then there's also things like...

Vesuvius Badger -- hot water not needed
Atlantian Badger -- very little water needed
Asgardian Badger -- careful with this one, if not worthy you won't be able to lift it
Elysian Badger -- badgers did die to make the brush
Olympian Badger -- on second thought maybe not, they all had beards

I like these ones! A mythical grading system - for those hair grades destined to became legendary...! TongueThumbsupW00tLaughing1

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 01-15-2013, 10:16 AM
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(01-15-2013, 05:41 AM)Dipesh Wrote: Ideally you'd use the same names as you would with 3 band apart from calling the top tier HMW.

In reality, the quality/grades don't need a name. The price will usually give you a good indicator when it comes to big brands.

I actually came to this conclusion as well.

And why not call the top tier HMW? Plisson does it.
Well, other than the fact that Rooney calls it Finest.... Huh

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 01-15-2013, 10:39 AM
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(01-15-2013, 10:16 AM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(01-15-2013, 05:41 AM)Dipesh Wrote: Ideally you'd use the same names as you would with 3 band apart from calling the top tier HMW.

In reality, the quality/grades don't need a name. The price will usually give you a good indicator when it comes to big brands.

I actually came to this conclusion as well.

And why not call the top tier HMW? Plisson does it.
Well, other than the fact that Rooney calls it Finest.... Huh

I want to see a brush with superfine badger.Biggrin

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