01-12-2013, 04:07 AM
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  • Shaun
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I'd like to know more about the properties of the woods used on Semogue brushes, if there are any experts on wood here. Cherry, ash, beech, oak ... vis-a-vis how they differently hold up in water. Being sealed I don't suppose it really matters, but maybe it does, a little?

Also, I have seen different claims re of the type of wood used in the 1250: is it beech or is it oak (or ash)? Anyone know for sure? Portugal online says BOTH oak and ash Smile

The cherry on the owners club; any idea what kind of cherry it is and where it is sourced?

I'd be really interested if anyone knows about this stuff.

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 01-12-2013, 07:03 AM
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  • Snuff
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I don't know anything about the woods used but they hold up very nicely, my handles get wet most of the time during soaking of the bristles and they are just fine after all that time.

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 01-12-2013, 07:24 AM
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According to VintageScent.com, Semogue uses Beech, Ash, Oak and Cherry. I have the SOC in Cherry that should be delivered to me today.

I'm not sure what type of wood is used on the painted handles.

Edit - After looking some more, the painted handles are Beech.

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 01-12-2013, 09:55 AM
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My oldest wooden handled Semogue is only about a year old, but it looks like the day I received it. I never soak the handle and dry it thoroughly after every shave and I store all of my brushes on a shelf in my bedroom away from humidity. However, I've seen a few pics of some wood Semogues that looked fairly rough, I'm unsure if they were poorly cared for or they just normally deteriorated after many years.

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 01-12-2013, 10:03 AM
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I have two wood handled Semogues, the 1305 (which is painted) and the SOC boar in cherry (which is not.)

Both are in great condition through many years of use.

There secret is simple: don't soak the handle.

You know the bowl that you use to build lather? Where the handle can easily tip over? Don't use that. Use something like an old coffee mug, or something like this:
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The idea is to soak the bristles but not the handle.

Do this and your Semogue will provide you with many years of use. Thumbsup

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 01-12-2013, 11:42 AM
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The woods used are just ordinary northern hardwoods. They have no particular moisture resistance that's been naturally "grown in" to the wood. Compare those to woods like Teak or Cocobolo which have moisture resistence built in because the tree put it there naturally. BTW, I doubt you'll ever find a handle made from teak. It has other things going on in the wood that make it a terrible candidate for turning (silica).

Semogue does an excellent job of waterproofing their handles IMO. After my shave I give a couple of good flings of my arm and wrist to remove as much water as possible then I upend it in the cabinet to dry off. At that point any water has the chance to get into the wood, but I've never seen any negative results from this treatment.

I try to wet my bristles and rest the brush bristle down in the tub of soap while I prepare everything else. That both soaks the bristles and softens the soap a bit. Shake it off, load with soap and I'm off. But sometimes when I use a cream I just upend the wet brush. Again, no ill effects from this. I only keep it upended for a minute or 2 at most though. I try not to stress the finish that protects the wood.

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 01-12-2013, 02:57 PM
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All fine wood, grown and harvested in good ol'Portugal Cool

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 01-12-2013, 04:24 PM
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  • Shaun
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So, which wood is used in the 1250? Oak, beech or ash?? This is what is confusing me.

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 01-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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(01-12-2013, 04:24 PM)Shaun Wrote: So, which wood is used in the 1250? Oak, beech or ash?? This is what is confusing me.

I guess I just don't understand what the difference is. Semogue makes fine brushes that seem to hold up as well as any brush.

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 01-12-2013, 07:26 PM
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(01-12-2013, 05:04 PM)DLP Wrote:
(01-12-2013, 04:24 PM)Shaun Wrote: So, which wood is used in the 1250? Oak, beech or ash?? This is what is confusing me.

I guess I just don't understand what the difference is. Semogue makes fine brushes that seem to hold up as well as any brush.

Well, some prefer the cherry, some prefer the ash; clearly there are aesthetic differences.

That's what I am trying to work out. Which wood on the 1250 and the 2000. Different vendors say different things and I can't really tell why they say different things. Unless they use whatever wood is at hand?? Surely not?

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 01-12-2013, 07:38 PM
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(01-12-2013, 07:26 PM)Shaun Wrote: ...That's what I am trying to work out. Which wood on the 1250 and the 2000. Different vendors say different things and I can't really tell why they say different things. Unless they use whatever wood is at hand?? Surely not?




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 01-12-2013, 08:15 PM
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I give up

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 01-12-2013, 08:52 PM
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(01-12-2013, 08:15 PM)Shaun Wrote: I give up

Contact Leon, Bruno, in a PM and I'm sure he will assist you with your questions.

He is in close contact with Semogue brush maker, and is an expert on all Semogue brushes currently in production.

He will surely know what kind of wood is used in the different Semogue handles.

Leon's profile: http://shavenook.com/user-leon

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 01-12-2013, 08:54 PM
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(01-12-2013, 08:52 PM)CHSeifert Wrote:
(01-12-2013, 08:15 PM)Shaun Wrote: I give up

Contact Leon, Bruno, in a PM and I'm sure he will assist you with your questions.

He is in close contact with Semogue brush maker, and is an expert on all Semogue brushes currently in production.

He will surely know what kind of wood is used in the different Semogue handles.

Leon's profile: http://shavenook.com/user-leon

Thanks Claus; I will do and I will post a response!

Shaun

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 01-12-2013, 10:49 PM
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Bruno (Leon) will be able to answer your question , and hopefully , he will post it here for all to know.

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 01-15-2013, 05:55 PM
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  • Shaun
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From Leon:

Re: Semogue, Types of Wood
To: Shaun
Hi Shaun,

According to my notes, the 2000 is beechwood and the 1250 is oak.

Best regards

Bruno
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Thanks Bruno/Leon


I guess I will just see what I get when my 2X 1250s arrive: oak or ash....

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