01-17-2013, 01:39 PM
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Curious to what defines a a Gillette SS as a Rocket. Were Rockets made in both England and America?

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 01-17-2013, 01:48 PM
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A Super Speed is different to a Rocket and in this sense a Super Speed cannot, in my mind, be defined as a Rocket.

Originally Super Speeds were made in the USA in the 40's and Rockets (of various designs such as HD, Paperclip, Parat snd standard Rocket etc)were made in the UK (and sold in the UK, across Europe and in Canada). There is one exception to this - a rare US made razor which shares the characteristics of a Rocket (the thread linked below has some pictures of it in it).

When Flare Tip Super Speeds were brought out, a similar model with a couple of minor, but noticeable, differences was made in the UK and marketed as a Super Speed. This changed after a couple of years and Flare Tip Rockets were then made in the UK and sold across Europe and Canada in the same way as before.

This thread should help to explain some of the differences: http://theshaveden.com/forums/threads/gi...d-de.8590/

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 01-17-2013, 01:59 PM
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(01-17-2013, 01:48 PM)ajc347 Wrote: A Super Speed is different to a Rocket and in this sense a Super Speed cannot, in my mind, be defined as a Rocket.

Originally Super Speeds were made in the USA in the 40's and Rockets (of various designs such as HD, Paperclip, Parat snd standard Rocket etc)were made in the UK (and sold in the UK, across Europe and in Canada). There is one exception to this - a rare US made razor which shares the characteristics of a Rocket (the thread linked below has some pictures of it in it).

When Flare Tip Super Speeds were brought out, a similar model with a couple of minor, but noticeable, differences was made in the UK and marketed as a Super Speed. This changed after a couple of years and Flare Tip Rockets were then made in the UK and sold across Europe and Canada in the same way as before.

This thread should help to explain some of the differences: http://theshaveden.com/forums/threads/gi...d-de.8590/

+1 very educational post

BTW Rockets are my favs Gillette's Biggrin

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 01-17-2013, 02:07 PM
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Great information! Boy, i wish they would shave me better as i love the simplicity of the aesthetics and the feel.

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 01-17-2013, 02:12 PM
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What you need is a British Red Tip (either Super Speed or Rocket) Celestino.

They're great shavers and shave closer than the US Red Tip Super speed.

I prefer the Red Tip Rocket out of the two of them, but I know that others do prefer the shave the British Super Speed gives.

EDIT: I forgot to mention in my post above, that Rockets were also sold in Australia as well.

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 01-17-2013, 02:22 PM
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Thanks for the great information.

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 01-17-2013, 02:33 PM
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I love my rockets...my Rocket Flare tip is one of my daily razors. i have a few other rockets, but the Flare Tip just seems to work best.

I wish all my vintage gillettes were Rockets...they just seem to be built a touch better.

Here is one of the rarer rockets you'll see, that I picked up a while back locally for cheap.

Blue Tip Rocket:
[Image: IMG_6365.jpg]

and the rest of my Rocket Collection:

Aristocrat Jr:
[Image: IMG_6350.jpg]

My Grandfathers Minty Flare Tip Rocket: (special occasion Rocket)

[Image: IMG_6689_Large.jpg]

Cased #70 (i think)
[Image: IMG_6587.jpg]

A gold Rocket (also rare I hear)
[Image: IMG_6692_Large.jpg]

Flare Tip Rocket (Daily use rocket)
[Image: IMG_6366.jpg]

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 01-17-2013, 02:41 PM
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That's a gorgeous looking Blue Tip you've got there Bruce.

If ever you want to sell it please let me know - it's the only UK made Rocket I've never been able to try as yet.

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 01-17-2013, 02:45 PM
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(01-17-2013, 02:41 PM)ajc347 Wrote: That's a gorgeous looking Blue Tip you've got there Bruce.

If ever you want to sell it please let me know - it's the only UK made Rocket I've never been able to try as yet.

thanks, i'll add you to the list of people who want it Biggrin

but to be honest, I don't see it going anywhere, any time soon. it set me back a whopping $10 locally and looks to be near unused (except by me of course) so I'd feel pretty guilty profiting too much off it.

it makes for a very enjoyable shave knowing how rare it is. and the fact that I was able to find it myself locally and clean it up a bit, makes for en even better shave.

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 01-17-2013, 02:48 PM
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$10 for a Blue Tip is an amazing deal - nice one mate. Smile

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 01-17-2013, 02:50 PM
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(01-17-2013, 02:48 PM)ajc347 Wrote: $10 for a Blue Tip is an amazing deal - nice one mate. Smile

funny thing is, we were parked with wife and kids, I ran in quickly to my local shop, grabbed what i thought was just a blue tip, only to discover it was a blue tip rocket.

i asked my wife if i could run in for 5-10min and she said sure...if we had been pressed for time or i hadn't stopped, it most likely would have been gone the next time i stopped in solo.

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 01-17-2013, 03:03 PM
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(01-17-2013, 02:12 PM)ajc347 Wrote: What you need is a British Red Tip (either Super Speed or Rocket) Celestino.
They're great shavers and shave closer than the US Red Tip Super speed.
I prefer the Red Tip Rocket out of the two of them, but I know that others do prefer the shave the British Super Speed gives.

* Unfortunately, i have already tried a British Red Tip and it still wasn't for me. i dont' seem to get on with Gilllette safety-bar razors. Oh well, more for you lads.

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 01-17-2013, 06:17 PM
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Wow! Love the Rockets!

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 01-17-2013, 08:35 PM
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Rockets have this gap in them too.....

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 01-18-2013, 02:05 AM
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My first Brit Flare tip cost me $3. Since then I have acquired two minties, with cases. At first I thought they were TVs (rhodium) but they were just in great condition and SHONE. I also have a British Red Tip and it shaves nice and clooooose...nice heft, too. The other thing about the Brits is that the centre bar raises and falls as you win and unwind, hence the gap above the TTO knob.

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 01-18-2013, 09:00 AM
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Hi Bruce, you are correct that is a cased #70 but that is part of the Aristocrat family. Sold for 37 Shillings in 1960 it was not a cheap razor. Also it is one of the more unusual Aristo's in fact I have only seen 3 or 4 of them................one being mine.......Biggrin
I asked Achim about it and he confirmed that they were hard to find.

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 01-18-2013, 12:09 PM
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I have this Gillette razor. that looks similar to one of those pictured or is it just a SS?

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 01-18-2013, 12:29 PM
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That is a S/S, you can tell because it has no gap between the TTO knob when its closed.

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 01-18-2013, 12:38 PM
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(01-18-2013, 12:29 PM)missingskin Wrote: That is a S/S, you can tell because it has no gap between the TTO knob when its closed.
Thank you for the correction.

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 01-18-2013, 12:38 PM
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(01-18-2013, 12:29 PM)missingskin Wrote: That is a S/S, you can tell because it has no gap between the TTO knob when its closed.
Thank you for the correction.

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