01-20-2013, 03:30 PM
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I have a problem. I love my boar brushes I have a S2000 and the newer limited edition (which is remake of the S1305).

I love the way they perform however the S2000 looks like crap and the new one is guess will be there soon.

I am attaching pics so you guys can see what I am talking about. I am a little disappointed in the quality.

I will say I have never soaked my brushes in water above the hair line. The wood has never been submerged. I had to take clear fingernail polish on the new limited edition one this morning because there is a small crack starting to chip away.

What brush do they make that is not wood that performs identical to the 1305 that no chance at chipping? Maybe a different material??

   

   

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 01-20-2013, 03:39 PM
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  • MickToley
  • Hi, I'm Mike and I'm a shave soap addict
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These are great brushes with acrylic handles: 620 610 830

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 01-20-2013, 03:51 PM
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  • Arcadies
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I'd go acrylics if you're having issues like that, as Michael has already pointed out. I've never had issues with wood/painted handles, do you bowl lather? I ask because both of those are damaged in roughly the same area that would bang on the edges of a bowl. I exclusively face lather, so maybe that is why I've never had issues with painted or wooden Semogues.

Try out some acrylics, they're very nice. I believe the 830 is a similar knot to the 1305.

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 01-20-2013, 03:52 PM
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I face lather 80% of the time.

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 01-20-2013, 04:29 PM
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The 830 is very similar knot to the 1305. Only difference IIRC is that the 830 is about 10% more dense.

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 01-20-2013, 04:33 PM
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Looked at the Omega line? They have every size under the sun and the knots are fantastic.

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 01-20-2013, 04:35 PM
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(01-20-2013, 04:33 PM)Lightning Boy Wrote: Looked at the Omega line? They have every size under the sun and the knots are fantastic.

How does the performance compare? Who has the best selection, or at least one that is like 1305?


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 01-20-2013, 04:41 PM
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"I have never soaked my brushes in water above the hair line."

I wouldn't soak them more that half way up the knot, Don't soak them up to the metal ring. That may be why your handle is cracking and the finish is coming off the 2000. The water is getting inside the wood handle.

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 01-20-2013, 04:50 PM
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  • Teiste
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I will go for the 830 , since you already have tried the 1305 and the 2000.Also a SOC boar could be another great option.

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 01-20-2013, 04:56 PM
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  • CMur12
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I'll agree with the others that if you liked the Semogue 1305 you'll like the 830, and it has an acrylic handle.

I'm very careful about not getting the handles wet while soaking. I've never had a problem with my 1305, but the varnish is cracking off of my 2000. It looks to me like you and I both have the 2000 with the older finish. The newer ones have a different finish and should hold up better.

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 01-20-2013, 05:10 PM
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  • vferdman
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(01-20-2013, 04:35 PM)Krisbarger Wrote:
(01-20-2013, 04:33 PM)Lightning Boy Wrote: Looked at the Omega line? They have every size under the sun and the knots are fantastic.

How does the performance compare? Who has the best selection, or at least one that is like 1305?


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Omega boars are fantastic! I would say at least as good as Semogue in the knot department. Some of the Omega handles are very cheap hollow ABS plastic, but the knots and performance of these boars is amazing. In fact for me Omega is a better boar brush. I especially like the new B&B Essential that WCS sells on behalf of that other forum. They are out right now, but they will replenish them soon. that is a fantastic taller loft(55mm) boar brush. The lower loft (50mm) boars by Omega are amazing also. I prefer the "blond" unpainted ones like in 10029. I have a few brushes I made with that knot and they are simply the best boar brushes ever. If you want Semogue, then the 830 is very similar to 1305, but a bit more dense and with acrylic handle. I find those large wodden handles that Semogue makes are the best shaped handle for the shaving brush. Haven't owned one long enough to have a problem with paint.

Good luck!

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 01-20-2013, 05:11 PM
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I can't compare the Omegas to the Semogues because I've only used the Omegas. But I have a seven dollar Omega (10075) that I like better than the forty dollar Simpsons Special Best Badger that's currently collecting dust in a drawer. The Omega was soft right out of the box and has only gotten softer. It works like a champ and for less than ten bucks, I don't worry about it too much.

Got mine from Gary at http://www.shoeboxshaveshop.com Don't think you'll find a better inventory of Omega brushes than his and he's a great guy to deal with (I've ordered from him several times and have had excellent dealings each time).

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 01-20-2013, 05:27 PM
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  • MickToley
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(01-20-2013, 04:41 PM)sunflake Wrote: I wouldn't soak them more that half way up the knot, Don't soak them up to the metal ring.

Agreed, only soak about half of the brush. That should be good enough. Use a coffee mug to soak in, that way your brush will stand straight, well somewhat straight.

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 01-20-2013, 06:40 PM
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I just picked up a 1305 from Bull Goose, and once I let my prince run around the block a few more times I'm gonna run it around the block a bit. At this point, my 620 is my favorite Boar. I also have an Omega 81052, and its a fine brush, but I prefer the heavier handle brushes.

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 01-20-2013, 07:15 PM
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(01-20-2013, 04:50 PM)Teiste Wrote: I will go for the 830 , since you already have tried the 1305 and the 2000.Also a SOC boar could be another great option.

+1 The 830 might be the best all-round boar brush for the money, in my opinion.

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 01-20-2013, 07:43 PM
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I am still learning about brushes...keep it coming guys

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 01-20-2013, 08:10 PM
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I have a 830 and its one of my favorite boars along with the 1305. At least until the Semogue 2012 SE arrives. I also use a coffee cup for soaking the brushes half way up the knot. Works like a charm.

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 01-20-2013, 08:43 PM
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  • vferdman
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(01-20-2013, 05:11 PM)Lightning Boy Wrote: I can't compare the Omegas to the Semogues because I've only used the Omegas. But I have a seven dollar Omega (10075) that I like better than the forty dollar Simpsons Special Best Badger that's currently collecting dust in a drawer. The Omega was soft right out of the box and has only gotten softer. It works like a champ and for less than ten bucks, I don't worry about it too much.

Got mine from Gary at http://www.shoeboxshaveshop.com Don't think you'll find a better inventory of Omega brushes than his and he's a great guy to deal with (I've ordered from him several times and have had excellent dealings each time).

I'll second the ShoeboxShaveShop and their boar selection. Some of the best prices on some Omegas. Pretty much any sub-$10 new Omega will outperform most $50 badger brushes out there. Handles are another story and if you go for the sub-$25 Omega (or Semogue) you will get that same amazing boar knot with a very good handle also.

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 01-20-2013, 08:51 PM
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(01-20-2013, 08:43 PM)vferdman Wrote:
(01-20-2013, 05:11 PM)Lightning Boy Wrote: I can't compare the Omegas to the Semogues because I've only used the Omegas. But I have a seven dollar Omega (10075) that I like better than the forty dollar Simpsons Special Best Badger that's currently collecting dust in a drawer. The Omega was soft right out of the box and has only gotten softer. It works like a champ and for less than ten bucks, I don't worry about it too much.

Got mine from Gary at http://www.shoeboxshaveshop.com Don't think you'll find a better inventory of Omega brushes than his and he's a great guy to deal with (I've ordered from him several times and have had excellent dealings each time).

I'll second the ShoeboxShaveShop and their boar selection. Some of the best prices on some Omegas. Pretty much any sub-$10 new Omega will outperform most $50 badger brushes out there. Handles are another story and if you go for the sub-$25 Omega (or Semogue) you will get that same amazing boar knot with a very good handle also.

Have you used this omega? It looks very nice, but I'm scared of these wood handles. They tend to be sensitive to water and well... They sorta have to be around it quite often.. Wink

I may have to check out these omegas.


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 01-20-2013, 11:55 PM
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Krisbarger - out of curiosity - how do you dry your brushes?

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