01-23-2013, 09:36 PM
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Has anyone used one of these TGN Gen3 knots?

I see it has the same loft as the 22 and 24mm knots. Would that make for a floppy brush? I assume one shouldn't set the knot in deeply.

I was thinking of making a brush with that knot to round out the family of TGN synthetics, but I don't want a floppy face latherer. Comments?

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 01-23-2013, 10:15 PM
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Brian despite being higher lofted, I would not consider the gen3 fibers to be floppy. I had a 22mm Parker with a similar knot that was not floppy and I currently have a 28mm Franks synthetic that has a 70mm loft that has a good backbone to it. I have enjoyed face lathering with both. Those fibers are pretty springy and that characteristic doesn't change too much when we as with natural hairs.

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 01-24-2013, 04:02 AM
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The one in this review uses a 20 mm TGN current generation.

http://shavenook.com/thread-restoration-...-synthetic

It is not floppy in this setting.

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 01-24-2013, 10:53 AM
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Thanks Gary.

Do you remember what you wound up with for loft? Comparable to the 22 & 24mm knots?

Your writing didn't make you sound disappointed with it, but compared to the 22mm knot how does it compare?

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 01-24-2013, 12:03 PM
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My experiments with synthetic hair confirms everything Gary says about setting the loft.

You really need that glue bump to be above the handle for best performance.

Unless you use really long shafts like in the HIS brush.

The newest generation of synthetic hair is very nice. Wish I could get my hands on it. Sad

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 01-24-2013, 05:20 PM
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(01-24-2013, 10:53 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Thanks Gary.

Do you remember what you wound up with for loft? Comparable to the 22 & 24mm knots?

Your writing didn't make you sound disappointed with it, but compared to the 22mm knot how does it compare?

It wound up being a 52 mm loft just due to the fact that the Fuller would not allow a deeper bore due to the shortness.

I have used the 22 mm in this brush.

http://shavenook.com/thread-bottle-cap-revisited

I have also used the 24 mm knot and in my opinion it is the best of the three, but that is not a detraction from the 20 or 22.

The 20 gives slightly less action of developing lather due to the size, but in terms of feel to the face all three feel the same. The 22 has slightly more backbone and the 24 has a little more plus a large lathering surface at the tips. If you like the 22 you won't be disappointed in the 20.

Lee is correct about the glue bump. In natural knots they are the enemy because they reduce overall effective loft. In synthetic knots they are your ally because they provide the flair (artificial bloom) that is needed. My Fuller is set at 52 mm for the loft with 8 mm being taken up by the glue bump.
The flair is good and the backbone is good because the effective loft defaulted to 44 mm. Short for a synthetic, but very effective.

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 01-24-2013, 08:18 PM
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Thanks for the info. I read that about the cap brush, but forgot it. I'm way beyond information overload.

Thanks again.

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 01-24-2013, 08:59 PM
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(01-24-2013, 08:18 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Thanks for the info. I read that about the cap brush, but forgot it. I'm way beyond information overload.

Thanks again.

You and me both. Thank goodness for Gary. Biggrin

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 01-25-2013, 11:46 AM
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I think I'm going to give it a try. I was quite hesitant to, but because of what I'm finding with the TGN knots, and it dovetails with what's been written here, it should work for me.

One thing that I find with the TGN nylon knots is that the larger (than normal for me) sizes don't feel overly large on my face. Probably because they don't bloom? I also like the backbone that they have.

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 01-25-2013, 12:18 PM
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(01-25-2013, 11:46 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote: One thing that I find with the TGN nylon knots is that the larger (than normal for me) sizes don't feel overly large on my face. Probably because they don't bloom? I also like the backbone that they have.

+1...the spring of the fibers keeps the splay in check. My 28mm x 70mm. Franks feels the same size on my face as do some of my other smaller natural hair brushes. Alternatively,my HIS, which has the same size knot as the Franks, brush acts completely different and consumes massive amounts of facial real estate.

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