01-25-2013, 09:48 AM
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  • spada4
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After using many badger brushes, Rooney's and Simpson's, I have found for me that I prefer boar brushes. I used the omega 48 and Proraso brushes daily for years and about a year ago wanted to try a shorter loft boar and ordered a Semogue 620. The 620 just does not provide the back bone or srubbiness that I was hoping for and I am thinking of trying an Omega boar in a similar loft (50) and knot (21). The Omega I am considering is the 81056, does anyone have any experience with this particular brush that could provide some feedback.

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 01-25-2013, 10:18 AM
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My friend , not with that Omega , but with one very similar , and the tips are softer , I will say , than the Semogue 1520 , so maybe its not the one for you , if you are looking for more scrubiness and backbone.

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 01-25-2013, 10:37 AM
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I was under the impression that the 620 and 1520 shared the same knot and that the handles were different.

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 01-25-2013, 10:42 AM
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(01-25-2013, 10:37 AM)spada4 Wrote: I was under the impression that the 620 and 1520 shared the same knot and that the handles were different.

Yes , thats true , same knot , different handle.But the Omega 21mm knot and 50 mm loft have even softer tips and less backbone.

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 01-25-2013, 10:48 AM
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Thanks Teiste.

I will keep giving my 620 a go. I was hoping to find a boar with more back bone and provided more of a srubby feel.

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 01-25-2013, 11:00 AM
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How long do you soak the 620 for? If it's more than a couple of minutes, maybe you'd like it with less soaking.

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 01-25-2013, 11:14 AM
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(01-25-2013, 11:00 AM)Songwind Wrote: How long do you soak the 620 for? If it's more than a couple of minutes, maybe you'd like it with less soaking.

I don't soak the brushes that long, usually about a minute or two.

Do the Semogues in general have more back bone as compared to Omegas? I have an affinity to Omega brushes, my first brush was an Omega that was used my father.

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 01-25-2013, 01:04 PM
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I'm a big fan of the Omega boars. I have a 10075 model and it's got lots of backbone and is great for face lathering.

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 01-25-2013, 01:12 PM
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I only have one Omega boar; a 10019 if memory serves. It has more backbone than any of my Semogues.

Or look for an old Rooney boar, or a Vulifix 2234. Or for that matter buy a non Omega knot from TGN (w/o a plastic collar) and assemble your own brush. Their knots are tight, have oodles of backbone and might be what you're looking for. It's a completely different feel compared to the Semogue. Let me show you.

(L to R) Semogue 620, 610, Omega 10019, Vulfix 2234, TGN boar set to 52mm, Unknown Rooney
[Image: DSC03875.jpg]

The 4 boars to the left don't splay a great deal in use. They might give you what you're looking for.

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 01-25-2013, 06:34 PM
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ShadowsDad, that is a nice collection of boars. I am going to order an Omega (40033 or 81056) to try they are so inexpensive there is not much to lose.

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 01-25-2013, 07:21 PM
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(01-25-2013, 11:14 AM)spada4 Wrote:
(01-25-2013, 11:00 AM)Songwind Wrote: How long do you soak the 620 for? If it's more than a couple of minutes, maybe you'd like it with less soaking.

I don't soak the brushes that long, usually about a minute or two.

Do the Semogues in general have more back bone as compared to Omegas? I have an affinity to Omega brushes, my first brush was an Omega that was used my father.

Personally, I have found the opposite. I have a Semogue 1250, and 4 Omega boars...all my Omegas have more backbone than my Semogue.

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 01-25-2013, 07:43 PM
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Excellent recommendation by Brian above for the TGN knot you could set at whatever loft you please.

I would also recommend the little-known Omega 40033 for 6.99 from Shoe Box Shave Shop

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 01-25-2013, 11:05 PM
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(01-25-2013, 07:43 PM)kentclark Wrote: Excellent recommendation by Brian above for the TGN knot you could set at whatever loft you please.

I thought the TGN knots were in a metal "cup"?

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 01-26-2013, 01:11 AM
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(01-25-2013, 11:05 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(01-25-2013, 07:43 PM)kentclark Wrote: Excellent recommendation by Brian above for the TGN knot you could set at whatever loft you please.

I thought the TGN knots were in a metal "cup"?

I've seen the boar knots available both ways on their site...cupped and uncupped.

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 01-26-2013, 03:36 AM
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(01-25-2013, 01:12 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: I only have one Omega boar; a 10019 if memory serves. It has more backbone than any of my Semogues.

a few days ago I received the same omega 10019 as a gift from someone who bought a straight from me. And I always thought Omega's where brushes of lower quality (from reading on the forums). Big big surprise! Used it 3 times now and boy is this a great brush! I have several Semogues that I love but this is a keeper for sure.

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 01-26-2013, 05:20 AM
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(01-25-2013, 07:43 PM)kentclark Wrote: Excellent recommendation by Brian above for the TGN knot you could set at whatever loft you please.

I would also recommend the little-known Omega 40033 for 6.99 from Shoe Box Shave Shop

Did someone mention an Omega with a custom handle.

[Image: CustomBoarSlide2_zps3ed3173a.png]

More on this in the attached thread.

http://shavenook.com/thread-new-custom-boar

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 01-26-2013, 10:57 AM
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I hear a lot of comments about Omegas being "cheap" because some of them have lightweight, plastic handles but make no mistake- there is absolutely nothing wrong with the knots. I like mine better than the best badger Simpsons brush I thought I needed.

If lightweight isn't your thing, look for Omegas with wood or acrylic handles. I've heard lots of complaints about peeling Semogues, just for point of reference, so this is a YMMV deal. Personally, I use the bristles, not the handle so I think too much is made of the handle material. But to each his own...Wink

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 01-26-2013, 11:38 AM
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I agree Lightning - I use my Omega boars everyday, I like them better then any of the brushes in my collection. I actually ordered an Omaega 40033 to try as a change of pace from my bigger Omega Pro and Proraso. My "cheap" Omegas have been used daily for years and they are holding up just fine.

I've tried to like the Semogue 620 but it can't knock the Omegas from my rotation. I got the 620 after reading about the issues folks were having with the wooden handles, not just the chipping but reading that when soaking the brush you should only soak the knot be careful to keep the wood from getting wet.

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 01-26-2013, 11:44 AM
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Bob, I've got these three resin handled Omega's, they come from their premium line of brushes. They are among my favorite boars.

   

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 01-26-2013, 12:22 PM
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Johnny- are there any North American retailers that carry those Omegas? Would love to get my grubby little mitts on one of those! Cool

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