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07-13-2012, 04:11 PM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2012 04:21 PM by bluesbishop.)
Post: #241
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-13-2012 10:14 AM)Dr Dulcamara Wrote:  Hi guys. The Fatip is made of zamac Huh or brass Cool?

Doctor the box says "IL RASOIO DI SICUREZZA TUTTO IN OTTONE"
Which mean all brass safety razor

(07-13-2012 11:26 AM)Azarius Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 10:23 AM)Dr Dulcamara Wrote:  And do you know the best webshop to buying in Europe? I'm in Spain. Maybe Maguire's Barbershop in ebay? Last night Rafael told me he would buy one.
And I have seen that there are two finishes. Nickel and chrome plated. Which recommend me?

I have had both the Nickel and the Chrome. Since I am sure Rafel is going to place a UFO handle on it, I would go with the Nickel Piccolo.

Maguire's Barbershop is probably the cheapest for you, but you may want to check with Bullgoose Shaving and see who is cheaper for shipping. I am assuming Maguire's because they are in the UK, but you never know.



I think the UK vendor would be cheapest for shipping...but I'm sure Bullgoose would give you great customer service...
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07-14-2012, 12:53 PM (This post was last modified: 07-14-2012 01:05 PM by Azarius.)
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RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Special Brotherhood of the Open Comb Founders Tradere Pass Around Edition, SOTD Saturday July 14, 2012
[Image: SOTD-071412.jpg]
Prep: Tepid Water Shower, Brush soaking in hot water
Razor: Tradere Open Comb
Blade: SuperMax Super Platinum
Brush: Vie-Long LE Beehive Horse Hair
Soap: Tabac
AS: Gillette Cool Wave
Post: Cold Water Rinse, Alum, Cold Water Rinse, Double Splash Of Aftershave.

I first would like to thank our friend who wishes to remain anonymous for providing this razor to Ken, Johnnie and myself so we could provide our opions and review of new Tradere Open Comb Razor.

Although Ken may be the "ΘΣ of BOTOC", I have the dubious distinction of being "Asshat Numero Uno", so with that being said, the razor was sent to me for the first round of testing.

I first would like to comment on overall appearance and construction.

Razor Head
The head of the razor is a piece of art from an engineering perpesticve, form meets function. The design, while in my opinion has been borrowed from iKon models such as the H20 and S35, is unique in it's own right.

Handle
Although my personal preference if for a handle with more girth and a shorter length, I found the Tradere handle to feel better in my hand than most. It may be the best weight to length ratio handle that I have had in my hand.

The finish I am mixed on. Although I could see why a matte finish could be usefully, I think that if deeper knurling was provided, a higher level of polish could be used. That leads to the next point, as you can see from the picture, this handle, even after a quick cleaning, is tarnished. A stainless steal handle that is more polished will resist this. With that said, I will definitely be buying a Tradere handle in the near future, as it fits the FaTip like a glove, and just feels great in your hand.

Overall Appearance and Feel
I would rate the overall appearance and feel of the razor as high. The quality of the craftsmanship is apparent as soon as you open the case. This is not a mass produced razor coming out of a factory, this is quality work, and it shows.

The Shave
When I first put the razor to my skin, it took me a moment to find the correct angle. For me, I found it to be a very steep one, the same that I would use with the 20111 Mühle R41.

The first thing that I noticed was how all I felt was blade. It was if I was holding a blade with my fingers and scraping. I did not like this feeling, but I continued.

After the first WTG pass on my face, I moved to my next. Although the shave was smooth, it was the same as my face, it felt like the blade was scraping my skin.

I rinsed my face, put on my glasses and did a visual inspection of hair reduction. While hair reduction was good on my face, the area from my jawline down had more stubble than I do when shaving with a Tech. While feeling my skin that is when I noticed the weepers and nicks which was gushing the blood from my cheek, necks, jaw and lower lip. I quickly rinsed my face, gave it a rub down with Alum and waited for the bleeding to supside before attempting the second pass.

I decided that since my face felt raw already that I should do another WTG pass, as I did not want to cause any irritation. Although my touch was light and I was allowing the weight for the handle to do all of the work, the pass was no different than the first. My skin on my face felt like someone had taken an onion peeler and was removing a thin layer of skin.

I rinsed my skin, put on more alum, took a smoke break and came back to attempt a DFS by finishing the shave with my Short Comb New.

My skin felt so raw that I decided not to even attempt a third pass, and had only done some light touch ups.

I have more stubble left below my jawline than I have had since I began Classic Shaving. My face is raw. I have cuts and weeper all over my face. I am glad that I did not buy this razor.

Conclusion
I know that razors and blades are very subjective, we each have the ones that we like best. I also know there is a huge fan club out there for the Tradere Open Comb, well I am glad that it works for you. I know that for me and my beard this razor does not work. I think that those who like the 2011 Mühle R41 you will like the Tradere Open Comb.

I have read where others have posted that they have found this to be a mild shave. I would like to know what they think is aggressive. I normally use my Slim Adjustable on 9, use the FaTiP and Short Comb New almost religiously, and find them to be like shaving with a Tech in mildness when compared to the Tradere. My face has only felt this Raw from the R41.

I may have to take a day off from shaving. I am undecided if I am going to give this a round two or just immediately send off to Johnnie.
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07-14-2012, 02:11 PM
Post: #243
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Ken,

As stated in the other BOTOC, there are twins of the vintage hybrid design such as the U.S. made Barbasol and the British made PAL using the same design.

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07-14-2012, 04:12 PM
Post: #244
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-13-2012 04:11 PM)bluesbishop Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 10:14 AM)Dr Dulcamara Wrote:  Hi guys. The Fatip is made of zamac Huh or brass Cool?

Doctor the box says "IL RASOIO DI SICUREZZA TUTTO IN OTTONE"
Which mean all brass safety razor

(07-13-2012 11:26 AM)Azarius Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 10:23 AM)Dr Dulcamara Wrote:  And do you know the best webshop to buying in Europe? I'm in Spain. Maybe Maguire's Barbershop in ebay? Last night Rafael told me he would buy one.
And I have seen that there are two finishes. Nickel and chrome plated. Which recommend me?

I have had both the Nickel and the Chrome. Since I am sure Rafel is going to place a UFO handle on it, I would go with the Nickel Piccolo.

Maguire's Barbershop is probably the cheapest for you, but you may want to check with Bullgoose Shaving and see who is cheaper for shipping. I am assuming Maguire's because they are in the UK, but you never know.



I think the UK vendor would be cheapest for shipping...but I'm sure Bullgoose would give you great customer service...

Certainly the dispatch from UK to Spain is cheaper. They have also been kind enough to deduct a pound. I bought a nickel-plated piccolo, and a grande gold effect, for Rafael. He is very busy making your handles and does not have time to look at the computer. Lately we slept a little while, ha, ha
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07-14-2012, 04:21 PM
Post: #245
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Both the pleasure and pain of success as a small manufacturer I believe everyone who has their handle fully appreciates all the effort you both put in
(07-14-2012 04:12 PM)Dr Dulcamara Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 04:11 PM)bluesbishop Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 10:14 AM)Dr Dulcamara Wrote:  Hi guys. The Fatip is made of zamac Huh or brass Cool?

Doctor the box says "IL RASOIO DI SICUREZZA TUTTO IN OTTONE"
Which mean all brass safety razor

(07-13-2012 11:26 AM)Azarius Wrote:  I have had both the Nickel and the Chrome. Since I am sure Rafel is going to place a UFO handle on it, I would go with the Nickel Piccolo.

Maguire's Barbershop is probably the cheapest for you, but you may want to check with Bullgoose Shaving and see who is cheaper for shipping. I am assuming Maguire's because they are in the UK, but you never know.



I think the UK vendor would be cheapest for shipping...but I'm sure Bullgoose would give you great customer service...

Certainly the dispatch from UK to Spain is cheaper. They have also been kind enough to deduct a pound. I bought a nickel-plated piccolo, and a grande gold effect, for Rafael. He is very busy making your handles and does not have time to look at the computer. Lately we slept a little while, ha, ha
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07-14-2012, 09:17 PM
Post: #246
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-14-2012 12:53 PM)Azarius Wrote:  Special Brotherhood of the Open Comb Founders Tradere Pass Around Edition, SOTD Saturday July 14, 2012
[Image: SOTD-071412.jpg]
Prep: Tepid Water Shower, Brush soaking in hot water
Razor: Tradere Open Comb
Blade: SuperMax Super Platinum
Brush: Vie-Long LE Beehive Horse Hair
Soap: Tabac
AS: Gillette Cool Wave
Post: Cold Water Rinse, Alum, Cold Water Rinse, Double Splash Of Aftershave.

I first would like to thank our friend who wishes to remain anonymous for providing this razor to Ken, Johnnie and myself so we could provide our opions and review of new Tradere Open Comb Razor.

Although Ken may be the "ΘΣ of BOTOC", I have the dubious distinction of being "Asshat Numero Uno", so with that being said, the razor was sent to me for the first round of testing.

I first would like to comment on overall appearance and construction.

Razor Head
The head of the razor is a piece of art from an engineering perpesticve, form meets function. The design, while in my opinion has been borrowed from iKon models such as the H20 and S35, is unique in it's own right.

Handle
Although my personal preference if for a handle with more girth and a shorter length, I found the Tradere handle to feel better in my hand than most. It may be the best weight to length ratio handle that I have had in my hand.

The finish I am mixed on. Although I could see why a matte finish could be usefully, I think that if deeper knurling was provided, a higher level of polish could be used. That leads to the next point, as you can see from the picture, this handle, even after a quick cleaning, is tarnished. A stainless steal handle that is more polished will resist this. With that said, I will definitely be buying a Tradere handle in the near future, as it fits the FaTip like a glove, and just feels great in your hand.

Overall Appearance and Feel
I would rate the overall appearance and feel of the razor as high. The quality of the craftsmanship is apparent as soon as you open the case. This is not a mass produced razor coming out of a factory, this is quality work, and it shows.

The Shave
When I first put the razor to my skin, it took me a moment to find the correct angle. For me, I found it to be a very steep one, the same that I would use with the 20111 Mühle R41.

The first thing that I noticed was how all I felt was blade. It was if I was holding a blade with my fingers and scraping. I did not like this feeling, but I continued.

After the first WTG pass on my face, I moved to my next. Although the shave was smooth, it was the same as my face, it felt like the blade was scraping my skin.

I rinsed my face, put on my glasses and did a visual inspection of hair reduction. While hair reduction was good on my face, the area from my jawline down had more stubble than I do when shaving with a Tech. While feeling my skin that is when I noticed the weepers and nicks which was gushing the blood from my cheek, necks, jaw and lower lip. I quickly rinsed my face, gave it a rub down with Alum and waited for the bleeding to supside before attempting the second pass.

I decided that since my face felt raw already that I should do another WTG pass, as I did not want to cause any irritation. Although my touch was light and I was allowing the weight for the handle to do all of the work, the pass was no different than the first. My skin on my face felt like someone had taken an onion peeler and was removing a thin layer of skin.

I rinsed my skin, put on more alum, took a smoke break and came back to attempt a DFS by finishing the shave with my Short Comb New.

My skin felt so raw that I decided not to even attempt a third pass, and had only done some light touch ups.

I have more stubble left below my jawline than I have had since I began Classic Shaving. My face is raw. I have cuts and weeper all over my face. I am glad that I did not buy this razor.

Conclusion
I know that razors and blades are very subjective, we each have the ones that we like best. I also know there is a huge fan club out there for the Tradere Open Comb, well I am glad that it works for you. I know that for me and my beard this razor does not work. I think that those who like the 2011 Mühle R41 you will like the Tradere Open Comb.

I have read where others have posted that they have found this to be a mild shave. I would like to know what they think is aggressive. I normally use my Slim Adjustable on 9, use the FaTiP and Short Comb New almost religiously, and find them to be like shaving with a Tech in mildness when compared to the Tradere. My face has only felt this Raw from the R41.

I may have to take a day off from shaving. I am undecided if I am going to give this a round two or just immediately send off to Johnnie.

Great review and your frank comments are certainly refreshing and appreciated. Your experience with the Tradere mirrors mine. I preserved with the Tradere as I appeared to be in the minority in terms of not enjoying it. I recently gave up and sold mine after coming to the realisation that I could never see us reaching an accord. Surprisingly, I can manage the R41, but not the Tradere!
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07-14-2012, 11:55 PM
Post: #247
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Thanks Ben...I really wanted to like the Tradere, as visually, I love it.

I have had people email or message me asking how I could not like the shave of it. Some seemed shocked as I had committed blasphemy. As I had mentioned, razors and blades are very subjective. For me, this razor does not work.

I will try a new angle and different blade tomorrow. My standard rule with any razor is simple, if I cannot get a great shave from my go to blade, I will typically skip on the razor. Being that I have it on loan I will at least give it a second test drive, as my face no longer feels raw.
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07-15-2012, 02:51 AM
Post: #248
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Hello BOTOCERS. I've been posting on your thread for some time as an impostor. But this morning, with a 70's soap stick of Myrurgia, a Semogue 830 brush, an UFO U2 handle, Astra platinum blade (green) first use, and a Gillette NEW long comb head, I had a close and very comfortable shave. I liked it. I have not found it anything aggressive. I've spent something like Bakelite vintage slant. Very close and both very soft and comfortable.

So from now I formally request my income in this brotherhood, as a humble brother of the Spanish chapter. I do not know if there are Spanish brothers, but if not, I inaugurated the chapter. If you accept me, of course. I want from now this thread is also my thread.

I leave a photo. And a question. This head is not NEW patent registration numbers, is a truly NEW? In what year or model?

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Now, when I have an UFO brass handle, I will send for rhodium plated. But I would get a NEW short comb, to send all three parts. See if someone helps me, I can not find any. Is difficult here in Spain. Not all ebay sellers sent to Spain.
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07-15-2012, 05:14 AM
Post: #249
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
*Ben, you and i seem to be in accordance with the Tradere and R41; not enjoying one and enjoying the other.

*Dr. Dulcamara, beautiful handle.
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07-15-2012, 05:54 AM
Post: #250
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-14-2012 09:17 PM)ben74 Wrote:  I first would like to thank our friend who wishes to remain anonymous for providing this razor to Ken, Johnnie and myself so we could provide our opions and review of new Tradere Open Comb Razor.
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I have read where others have posted that they have found this to be a mild shave. I would like to know what they think is aggressive. I normally use my Slim Adjustable on 9, use the FaTiP and Short Comb New almost religiously, and find them to be like shaving with a Tech in mildness when compared to the Tradere. My face has only felt this Raw from the R41.

I may have to take a day off from shaving. I am undecided if I am going to give this a round two or just immediately send off to Johnnie.[/font]

Thank you for your excellent appraisal. I have a Tradere OC on its way to me which will be installed in a Bulldog handle and partnered with an iKon S3S for my daily shave. I will subsequently relegate my Fatip OC with Tradere handle to my travel case. The fact you mentioned that the Tradere handle fits the Fatip like a glove is very encouraging indeed Smile

Regarding your shave experience itself someone has previously mentioned a "systems approach to shaving" where each of the components including head, handle, blade, cream/soap, etc. have to be matched and evaluated collectively. Not intending to pontificate (because no-one likes a smart-arse) this seems a good plan when considering that hi-fi aficionados claim to be able to distinguish sonic differences between short interconnecting cables Huh and supports your plan to maybe swap blades prior to waving the Tradere bye-bye Wave1
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07-15-2012, 12:58 PM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2012 12:58 PM by PadreTex.)
Post: #251
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-13-2012 10:08 AM)Azarius Wrote:  
(07-12-2012 07:59 AM)PadreTex Wrote:  Trying the Fatip tomorrow morning. We'll see… I'll just take it slooow.

Anxiously awaiting to see how your shave went with the FaTip. Being that it is past 2 pm Easter Time, I am wondering if you survived the shave, or did you shave your face off Hmm

Well, I tried the Fatip. It shaved nicely, little irritation during the shave itself, but then later my skin started barking at me. Decided to return to the Merkur for a week, then retry the Fatip again to give it a fair review on the 23rd or so.
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07-15-2012, 05:19 PM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2012 06:53 PM by Azarius.)
Post: #252
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
SOTD, Brotherhood of the Open Comb Founders Tradere Pass Around Edition, Sunday July 15, 2012
[Image: SOTD-071512.jpg]
Prep: Tepid Water Shower, Brush soaking in hot water, face scrub with TSD Sandalwood soap and boar brush
Razor: Tradere Open Comb (pass 1), Gillette NEW Short Comb (passes 2, and 3)
Blade: Gillette Black 7 O'Clock
Brush: Vie-Long LE Beehive Horse Hair
Soap: Tabac
Cream: TSD Sandalwood Wheat Cream
AS: Aqua Velva Musk
Post: Cold Water Rinse, Alum, Cold Water Rinse, Double Splash Of Aftershave.

After yesterday's experience with the Tradere Open Comb, I thought that I would wait at least a full 24 hours before attempting shave number two.

After numerous calls, emails and messages from razor buddies and family (Ken), I thought that I would take their advice and try a different blade. I found my last Gillette Black, which Ken and I both agreed should perform better.

Being a lazy Sunday I took my sweet old time. Before showering I scrubbed my face with a boar brush and loaded with a slight amount of TSD Sandalwood soap, my face was in great shape today.

I built an überlather that was thick and luxurious. I worked the lather well into my whiskers and allowed it to sit while I had a smoke and talked to my wife.

The natural angle for the Tradere seems to be steep. I adjusted and tried a 30 degree angle, which did not feel natural or good at all, I went back to what felt natural for this razor.

The strokes where short, with a lot of attention paid to angle, pulling of skin, and going back to the basics. I rinsed and exmained my face.

Same as yesterday. Nicks, weepers, face felt raw. I was done.

After a few choice curse words and a 30 minute break I finally went in and finished my shave with the Gillette Short Comb New loaded with the Black 7 O'Clock blade. Two passes and lights touch-ups and I have a almost a BBS shave.

This will be my last attempt of using the Tradere. I am glad that there are entrepreneurs who come up with new designs and introduce these razors to market. I am glad that there is a loyal following for those that like them. As for me, it did not work out. Not every blade nor every razor is meant for every face.
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07-15-2012, 05:49 PM
Post: #253
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Some combinations are just not for everyone. Better fortune next time.
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07-15-2012, 05:55 PM
Post: #254
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
Zero pressure on the fatip is needed Padre, and make sure your soap is very slick so it doesnt skip on you, rub the lather between your finger and thumb if you can feel the ridges of your finger prints then the lather is no good, or rather probably not as good as it could be, it may take you two or three times out with it to get the angle and oressure down,
I found it so smoth my first shave i was adding a bit of pressure without thinking about it cause i couldnt feel it doing anything it was that smooth, so be sure to pay attention and trust its doing its job rather then feel for it.... you can hear it go though

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(07-15-2012 12:58 PM)PadreTex Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 10:08 AM)Azarius Wrote:  
(07-12-2012 07:59 AM)PadreTex Wrote:  Trying the Fatip tomorrow morning. We'll see… I'll just take it slooow.

Anxiously awaiting to see how your shave went with the FaTip. Being that it is past 2 pm Easter Time, I am wondering if you survived the shave, or did you shave your face off Hmm

Well, I tried the Fatip. It shaved nicely, little irritation during the shave itself, but then later my skin started barking at me. Decided to return to the Merkur for a week, then retry the Fatip again to give it a fair review on the 23rd or so.
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07-15-2012, 06:51 PM
Post: #255
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-15-2012 12:58 PM)PadreTex Wrote:  Well, I tried the Fatip. It shaved nicely, little irritation during the shave itself, but then later my skin started barking at me. Decided to return to the Merkur for a week, then retry the Fatip again to give it a fair review on the 23rd or so.

Sounds like a good plan to me. The Merkur 41 1904OC was the open comb that I started with, still have it, always will.

The FaTip is more aggressive, but I have found that a sharp and smooth blade really makes for and irritation free shave.
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07-15-2012, 06:58 PM
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1934 Gillette Aristocrat (First TTO Model)
During the 1930s things seems bleak for Gillette. The company was forced into a merger with Autostrop due to Gillette's patent infringement on the Probak blade system. Due to malfeasance by Gillette management, in which units sold were vastly over stated in the 1920s, the management of Autostrop took complete control of the company, and eliminated from the company the last hold outs of King Gillette's management team. The Kroman steel blade was a complete disaster and had to be pulled from the market. The United States was in the middle of the great depression, which along with competition for blade manufacturing, saw Gillette sales take a nose dive. On top of all of that, King Gillette passed away in 1932. It would seem that the Gillette Corporation was doomed to fade away in the world of frugality and competition ... until this game changer was introduced to the U.S. market. The 1934 Aristocrat was created and produced in Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A. This was the very first model of Twist-to-Open (TTO) razor. Gillette began to turn the corner with this revolutionary design that would be the most dominate razor for the next 40 years.

I recently procured one of these razors for my collection and it is an absolutely wonderful shaver.

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07-15-2012, 07:30 PM
Post: #257
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
I love the Aristocrat, such a fine looking razor, and I am sure that it shaves live a dream.
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07-15-2012, 08:17 PM
Post: #258
RE: 1934 Gillette Aristocrat (First TTO Model)
*You may find the FaTip will not work for you. If it does not, try the Old Type, the Single Ring, or the OC Aristocrats as another option.


(07-15-2012 12:58 PM)PadreTex Wrote:  
(07-13-2012 10:08 AM)Azarius Wrote:  
(07-12-2012 07:59 AM)PadreTex Wrote:  Trying the Fatip tomorrow morning. We'll see… I'll just take it slooow.

Anxiously awaiting to see how your shave went with the FaTip. Being that it is past 2 pm Easter Time, I am wondering if you survived the shave, or did you shave your face off Hmm

Well, I tried the Fatip. It shaved nicely, little irritation during the shave itself, but then later my skin started barking at me. Decided to return to the Merkur for a week, then retry the Fatip again to give it a fair review on the 23rd or so.


*Gary, nice photos. Love those OC Aristocrats!

(07-15-2012 06:58 PM)GDCarrington Wrote:  During the 1930s things seems bleak for Gillette. The company was forced into a merger with Autostrop due to Gillette's patent infringement on the Probak blade system. Due to malfeasance by Gillette management, in which units sold were vastly over stated in the 1920s, the management of Autostrop took complete control of the company, and eliminated from the company the last hold outs of King Gillette's management team. The Kroman steel blade was a complete disaster and had to be pulled from the market. The United States was in the middle of the great depression, which along with competition for blade manufacturing, saw Gillette sales take a nose dive. On top of all of that, King Gillette passed away in 1932. It would seem that the Gillette Corporation was doomed to fade away in the world of frugality and competition ... until this game changer was introduced to the U.S. market. The 1934 Aristocrat was created and produced in Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A. This was the very first model of Twist-to-Open (TTO) razor. Gillette began to turn the corner with this revolutionary design that would be the most dominate razor for the next 40 years.

I recently procured one of these razors for my collection and it is an absolutely wonderful shaver.

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07-15-2012, 09:23 PM
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RE: 1934 Gillette Aristocrat (First TTO Model)
Great post! Enjoyed the history lesson. Beautiful razor you have..I hope to pick one up someday

(07-15-2012 06:58 PM)GDCarrington Wrote:  During the 1930s things seems bleak for Gillette. The company was forced into a merger with Autostrop due to Gillette's patent infringement on the Probak blade system. Due to malfeasance by Gillette management, in which units sold were vastly over stated in the 1920s, the management of Autostrop took complete control of the company, and eliminated from the company the last hold outs of King Gillette's management team. The Kroman steel blade was a complete disaster and had to be pulled from the market. The United States was in the middle of the great depression, which along with competition for blade manufacturing, saw Gillette sales take a nose dive. On top of all of that, King Gillette passed away in 1932. It would seem that the Gillette Corporation was doomed to fade away in the world of frugality and competition ... until this game changer was introduced to the U.S. market. The 1934 Aristocrat was created and produced in Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A. This was the very first model of Twist-to-Open (TTO) razor. Gillette began to turn the corner with this revolutionary design that would be the most dominate razor for the next 40 years.

I recently procured one of these razors for my collection and it is an absolutely wonderful shaver.

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07-16-2012, 04:00 PM
Post: #260
RE: Brotherhood of the Open Comb
(07-15-2012 07:30 PM)Azarius Wrote:  I love the Aristocrat, such a fine looking razor, and I am sure that it shaves live a dream.

That it does, it is one of the very best fixed razors I have ever used. Time and different blades will tell the tale of is it the very best.
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