03-31-2012, 09:55 AM
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  • Teiste
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These are two of the most famous classic shaving razors,and for so many,the most effective ones out there : the Merkur HD 34C and the Edwin Jagger DE89L.

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The Merkur have been on the market for over 100 years,but under other names,like Apollo and Hoffritz.The Edwin Jagger is more ,but have gained a great reputation among classic wet shavers,specially when the new Edwin Jagger/Muhle close comb head was introduced in 2010.

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Both razors have close comb heads but the Merkur HD has more blade gap exposure than the Edwin Jagger one.The Edwin Jagger its not a mild razor (not in my book,at least),however the Merkur is more aggressive without being a killer or unpleasant.

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The Merkur is a 2 piece razor,while the Edwin Jagger is a 3 piece razor.To be honest,I like the 2 piece razors,which makes changing/replacing the blades more easy than the 3 piece razors,or again,at least to me.

Their weights are :

-Mekur HD 34 C :

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-Edwin Jagger DE89L :

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So we see that the Merkur is only 2 grams heavier than the Edwin Jagger.

In size are not similar,since the Merkur HD height is 8,5 cm and the Edwin Jagger is around 10 cm long :

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Both razors have excellent balance,but I think I prefer the balance I get from the Edwin Jagger one,since its a more comfortable handle to use.I dont have big hand either,so I can handle the Merkur HD easy too,but I like the better grip of the Edwin Jagger.

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The Edwin Jagger has a better finished and polished than the Merkur HD.Actually,much better I would say.Merkur have struggle in the past with some of their razor finish,but the Merkur HD that I have its fine.Its built like a tank and it looks like a tank,but keeping some charming.The Edwin Jagger is the elegant/stylish one,with a polished chrome finish and kind of shiny.In this particular case,the Edwin Jagger clearly wins over the Merkur HD.

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Both razors are great shavers,well done and with a good balance but the Edwin Jagger is cheaper,around 32 dollars,while the Merkur HD 34 C is around 43 dollars,so my personal election would go towards the Edwin Jagger razor.


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 03-31-2012, 10:04 AM
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  • Johnny
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Teiste, excellent write-up.

I prefer the Edwin Jagger/Muhle over the Merkur. Basic reason, fit and finish. Merkur could learn a few things from Muhle.

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 03-31-2012, 10:04 AM
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  • slantman
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First off Teiste the pictures are incredible. Its been a long time since I owned the HD but I heard they had quality issues. On the other hand the Edwin Jagger is beautifully finished no matter what configuration you buy it in ( handle,style & trim) . I agree the EJ is the better of the two razors.

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 03-31-2012, 10:23 AM
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Love My EJ DE89L, The finish is great and holds up well.

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 03-31-2012, 11:55 AM
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Great Post Teiste!
These were my two first razors(merkur first). I still own an EJ89 and I think its one of the very best out there.

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 03-31-2012, 12:29 PM
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Great write-up and excellent analysis. Your logic is just like mine; they both shave like champs but you can save $10 or more with the EJ. I wonder if Merkur has seen a decrease in sales since their price hike last year?

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 03-31-2012, 01:11 PM
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(03-31-2012, 10:04 AM)Johnny Wrote: Teiste, excellent write-up.

I prefer the Edwin Jagger/Muhle over the Merkur. Basic reason, fit and finish. Merkur could learn a few things from Muhle.

Hear, hear! Thumbsup

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 03-31-2012, 03:07 PM
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These were my first two razors. I quickly gravitated to the Muhle. I just seemed to get a better shave with it.

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 03-31-2012, 06:57 PM
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  • celestino
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Tieste,
Great review, sir! Very well done.

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 03-31-2012, 08:50 PM
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The Jagger is more attractive but I prefer the 34c as a shaver because it is more aggressive.

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 03-31-2012, 09:01 PM
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  • kav2
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My one and only razor is a MERKUR HD bought when I first started. I'm lucky, it had no issues in fit. It has developed two pits and
several micro dings inside the head just opposite the safety bar on one side. I doubt it will progress enough to be an issue in my lifetime. It is still aggravating when you've committed to a system looked upon as superior and traditional. I've considered the Jaggers and this helps.

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 04-01-2012, 12:23 AM
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Great post there.

I'd go for the Edwin Jagger as the finish is so much better than the Merkur. My choice would be the barley chrome handle.

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 04-01-2012, 08:26 AM
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I've owned them both and I think the EJ gives a better shave. The HD is definately more aggressive.

Clayton

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 04-01-2012, 08:35 AM
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The EJ89L is my favorite DE razor. Very smooth and effective with quite a large assortment of blades.

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 04-01-2012, 09:24 AM
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Dynamite write-up. For years, the Merkur 34C was the most recommended beginner razor (of modern manufacture---that is, not including vintage razors (which it also beat, with the Super Speed and Tech high on the list of also-ran)). But once EJ discontinued use of the Merkur Classic head (used on the 34C) and moved to the new design, one of the Edwin Jagger DE8x series (or the Mühle equivalents) has become the most-recommended beginner razor. The reason, I think, is simple: the EJ head shaves better. This is, of course, based on my own experience, and I'll bet any money that there are some for whom the 34C works better---but the consensus is that EJ did the right thing in replacing the Classic head with this new design.

The difference is not night-and-day: the Merkur Classic head was the culmination of decades of shaving experience and razor development. But of course knowledge and technology continually improve (though not always: cf. the multiblade cartridge), and in fact EJ did improve upon the design---and there will be other improvements as well: for example, I think the iKon S3S is better than the EJ, and though I'm still in process, it looks as if the ARC Weber may be better as well. However, both of those sell above the EJ price point, with the S3S *well* above.

I had to shave several times with the 34C and my EJ DE87 to be sure of the differences and the improvement, but I'm confident now that the EJ is definitely a better razor for the typical novice.

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 04-02-2012, 07:22 AM
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  • Java
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Thank you for a great comparison, Teiste. I was leaning towards the 34C for my next razor (first modern one) but I think you have swayed me towards the DE89L. I'll probably end up with both eventually! Rolleyes

I assume based on what I hear that they are both a little more aggressive than my Super Speeds?

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 04-03-2012, 09:26 AM
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Great comparison!

I've never owned the 34C, but I had a 38M for nearly two years. It was a good razor, but when I got my DE89 a few months ago, it wasn't long before I sold the 38M.

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 04-08-2012, 01:21 AM
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  • Teiste
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(04-02-2012, 07:22 AM)Java Wrote: Thank you for a great comparison, Teiste. I was leaning towards the 34C for my next razor (first modern one) but I think you have swayed me towards the DE89L. I'll probably end up with both eventually! Rolleyes

I assume based on what I hear that they are both a little more aggressive than my Super Speeds?

Yes,they both are more aggressive,but on the "soft" aggressive side,not like a slant or a new Muhle open comb head.

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 04-08-2012, 02:00 AM
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Fantastic review! I have a 34c and now I want an Edwin Jagger DE89LSmile

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 04-08-2012, 05:56 AM
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(04-08-2012, 02:00 AM)tgutc Wrote: Fantastic review! I have a 34c and now I want an Edwin Jagger DE89LSmile

My only (and first) razor is the HD34c, it shaves my face well, but I am always open to different technologies and reviews.... soooooo I went on and bought the Tradere handle, and now i have the EJDE89LBL on the way!

It will be interesting to shave for a couple weeks with the EJ full setup, and then switch for a couple of weeks using the EJ head with the Tradere handle

Aaaaa

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