Muhle R41 Grande safety razor.
06-01-2012, 01:20 PM #3
I currently use a 38M and I love the larger handle compared to my Gillette Tech. I imagine this handle would be somewhat similar.
Someday....maybe on my 1 year anniversary of DE shaving I'll buy one of these.
06-01-2012, 02:10 PM #6
(06-01-2012, 12:44 PM)somebody Wrote: I had a really rough shave this morning with the regular sized R41 paired with an Ikon handle. I was getting great shaves with my Weber, Ikon, Tradere, but this thing just chewed me up today. It may be possible I got a bad blade.
No, I think it has a reputation for chewing a lot of people up. I have one, and when I am feeling particularly "on my game" I give it a whirl. It's as close a parer as they come, but unforgiving of lapses of technique or attention.
06-01-2012, 07:02 PM #7
I have this razor and it definitely can be a beast. It requires total respect and all of my concentration. As mentioned, if it's on, it's on and you can go from three to two passes with similar results.
I also have a 39C Sledgehammer Slant and consider it MUCH milder than this razor. I can slack a bit with the Slant and not get bitten. It has some forgiveness for me but not so the R41 Grande.
I have to be feeling bold and basically not have shaved for a few days when I pick up the R41 but I have to say that I never want to be without it in my arsenal.
06-01-2012, 08:07 PM #8
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2012, 08:08 PM by Johnny9.)
Also, while on the topic of the handle, have you noticed how thin the metal sounds? I tapped mine with my fingernail and it sounded like pot metal. I personally hate the handle, the knurling is useless, it's thin, very long for a fat handle and just cheap feeling.
The shave head design is very poor, IMHO. The blade is held so far from the edge that I get a lot of blade flex; which leads to tugging and/or weepers. Blade flex isn't good for prolonging the life of a blade either. I have coarse thick hair and I would only recommend someone with light hair to use it simply from all of the hair grabbing it does.
Obviously I'm no fan of the R41. A close comfortable shave isn't worth all of the precautions (and time) you need to take to use it. If I'm planning on a slow and deliberate shave, I'm using my straight. If I want a close fast comfortable shave, I'm grabbing anything but the Muhle.
BTW, mine has been for sale for nearly a year. Maybe I should change my sales pitch. LOL
06-02-2012, 12:50 AM #11
06-02-2012, 04:27 AM #12
It's not going to fit everyone's requirements, of course. That's why it's nice to have the choice we have in razors.
My experience with the razor was similar to a lot of other guys - it is great when used well, but it is unforgiving of lapses in concentration. I didn't like the feel of the blade on my face, so I sold mine, but I could get a good shave from it.
Other razors were just more of a pleasure to use for me, and I usually shave with straights so the R41 didn't really fill a need for me.
06-02-2012, 06:47 AM #13
Personally I find the R41 is an excellent first pass razor, really mows down the whiskers, then 2nd and 3rd pass with something a little milder, or makes a very good choice when tackling 2 to 3 days worth of beard growth...
06-02-2012, 07:24 AM #14
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06-02-2012, 07:38 AM #15
(06-02-2012, 07:24 AM)mctmatt Wrote: I have the Muhle 102 Razor which has the same head as the New R41. I have discovered for me that I have better control of the angle of the blade by shaving ATG with an upward stroke. I now start my shave at the bottom of my neck where by beard line ends and I pull the razor upwards towards my cheek bone. I do this for the entire shaving area of my face except for my upper lip which I use my Gillette Tech. One pass is all that I need when I use the upward stroke and I get a close comfortable shave without any irritation or weepers. When I use the WTG, and XTG I usually don't get as close a shave nor as comfortable. I will say that after a month with the very aggressive Muhle Razor, my Gillette Tech is now just a fast and easy shave even with a feather blade. I don't even worry about irritation or weepers with it now.thanks for sharing your experience. I find it encouraging that new tools often give a breakthrough on efficiency with older tools.
06-02-2012, 05:51 PM #18
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