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04-26-2013, 10:57 AM
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Okay so I am paranoid and nutso but I really really like the Muhle R41 2011' beast version. In fact I like them so much I now have three and maybe will add a fourth in the near future. Although I bought and recently sold the 2013' version to a fellow member it shaved like the iKon Deluxe standard bar which is not a bad thing at all but once you get addicted to the beast there is no turning back.
Now here is the rub. The beast is no longer being made and only a hand full of vendors still carry them as NOS. I think in the future guys will be craving them and then it will be supply and demand. At the moment I have the R41 chrome, R102 white handle and R41 rosegold. Sort of like the back up to the back up to the back up.
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04-26-2013, 11:34 AM
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I think that sounds like a good idea, Jerry. Sounds like you found something you really like!
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04-26-2013, 11:46 AM
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Well if you run out I have 2 X 2011 and 1 X 2013...$1000.00 eachTongue
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04-26-2013, 12:01 PM
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Wow, Jerry, you surely love the BEAST!
Good luck to you and you might as well go for a seven-day set!Biggrin
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04-26-2013, 12:12 PM
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(04-26-2013 11:46 AM)Harvey Wrote:  Well if you run out I have 2 X 2011 and 1 X 2013...$1000.00 eachTongue

You got to stay away from that cheap whiskeySmile
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04-26-2013, 12:13 PM
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(04-26-2013 12:01 PM)celestino Wrote:  Wow, Jerry, you surely love the BEAST!
Good luck to you and you might as well go for a seven-day set!Biggrin

The only thing left is the R101 and R41 Grande
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04-26-2013, 12:16 PM
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Jerry, it's not paranoia, it's a mini shavepocolypse. I have 2, that's enough for me since I'm not trying to corner the market on them.

You could be like the Hunt brothers of what, 15 years ago (?), with silver. Buy up all the '11 R41s and create an artificial shortage.
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04-26-2013, 12:49 PM
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Is the 2013 milder than the 2011?

I understand the feeling though. I snatched a Krona from Anthony for a back-up to my other one since I loved the one I got off Dave so much.

Nothing wrong with making sure you always have a back-up of your favorite razor.
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04-26-2013, 12:56 PM
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It sounds like you're just a good ole fan of the beast. Enjoy them!
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04-26-2013, 01:03 PM
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I'd say get them all! I wish I had bought more than a box of C&E Sweet Almond Oil SC when they were discontinuing them...If ever I find a genie...
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04-26-2013, 01:40 PM
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(04-26-2013 12:49 PM)CRAusmus Wrote:  Is the 2013 milder than the 2011?
Yes it is. Less blade exposure.
I understand the feeling though. I snatched a Krona from Anthony for a back-up to my other one since I loved the one I got off Dave so much.

Nothing wrong with making sure you always have a back-up of your favorite razor.
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04-26-2013, 01:57 PM
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Introducing the Beastie Boys

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04-26-2013, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 04-26-2013 03:34 PM by Galhatz.)
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Paranoia is defined as difficulty to cope with uncertainty coupled with a tendency to "see" conspiracies.

Let me assure you that I am certain that Muhle's master plan has yet to show it's real face but you could protect yourself by hoarding as many of the old model's as you could possibly get your hands on - ACT NOW!!!
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04-26-2013, 03:57 PM
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Hoard the beast!
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04-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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(04-26-2013 03:31 PM)Galhatz Wrote:  Paranoia is defined as difficulty to cope with uncertainty coupled with a tendency to "see" conspiracies.

Let me assure you that I am certain that Muhle's master plan has yet to show it's real face but you could protect yourself by hoarding as many of the old model's as you could possibly get your hands on - ACT NOW!!!

Muhle's only plan is to make money like any company and nothing unusual about it. The only reason they modified the 41 2011' was because guys were complaining about its aggressiveness. About two years ago I bought a used 41 from Michael Hamm and like him found it to be very aggressive. When I heard Muhle was modifying the 41 and making it less aggressive I ordered one from Connaught but it turned out to be a 41 2011' which Connaught apologized for sending it to me. But I tried it out and used no pressure and let the razor work for me and loved it. Now I am hooked as I consider it a fantastic shaving tool.
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04-26-2013, 04:01 PM
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Jerry, is there any chance that you could out live your razorsHuh

Didn't think so. Tongue I do know the feeling.
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04-26-2013, 04:49 PM
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In the court of the crimson king... I also have three 2011 R41's (one original R41 and two 102's). Interestingly (to me at least) discovered that Muhle did not jump from a circa 18 mm head to a (2013) 20mm head as widely reported. One of my (2011) R102 has an original and intermediate 19mm head, which does not appear to be poor manufacturing tolerance but rather, evolving design. I find the original Muhle handles disappointing and have replaced them with Weber classics.

Living on the bleeding edge... R41/Weber classic, feather blade, La Toja red tube cream lightly whipped and hydrated 'to emulsion consistency' (pre-heat the razor by total immersion in a bowl of hot water) and perform your ATG pass from labium superius oris, philtrum and onwards and upwards to septum... if you dare or care :-D

Who says you can't buy a thrill... do it again! Enjoy your shave, fw
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04-26-2013, 07:08 PM
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(04-26-2013 04:01 PM)PanchoVilla Wrote:  Jerry, is there any chance that you could out live your razorsHuh
At my age I doubt it Bob
Didn't think so. Tongue I do know the feeling.
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04-26-2013, 07:13 PM
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(04-26-2013 04:49 PM)frankw Wrote:  In the court of the crimson king... I also have three 2011 R41's (one original R41 and two 102's). Interestingly (to me at least) discovered that Muhle did not jump from a circa 18 mm head to a (2013) 20mm head as widely reported. One of my (2011) R102 has an original and intermediate 19mm head, which does not appear to be poor manufacturing tolerance but rather, evolving design. I find the original Muhle handles disappointing and have replaced them with Weber classics.

Living on the bleeding edge... R41/Weber classic, feather blade, La Toja red tube cream lightly whipped and hydrated 'to emulsion consistency' (pre-heat the razor by total immersion in a bowl of hot water) and perform your ATG pass from labium superius oris, philtrum and onwards and upwards to septum... if you dare or care :-D

Who says you can't buy a thrill... do it again! Enjoy your shave, fw
I tried the extra weight of a solid handle and decided that it was not necessary. The original handles work for me.
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04-26-2013, 08:57 PM
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I hated the original handle since it always felt it was slipping and that prompted me to use more finger force than I wanted to. It was done on a completely subconscious level. I replaced it with a relatively lightweight UFO prototype handle with good knurling (gorgeous too) and the difference is night and day. From a razor I liked, my '11 R41 has become one that has become, far and away, my favorite DE razor.
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