02-25-2013, 06:21 PM
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Below is a recent brush purchase that I am hoping someone could give me get some info on.
I asked Mark Watterson, Managing Dir - Progress Shaving Brush (Vulfix) about it. He said that it pre-dated their acquisition of the Simpson brand in 2008 so he wasn't able to offer more then to confirm that it is an authentic Simpson vintage brush. I am very new to shaving brush collecting and would really appreciate any info that I receive. As best I can see the side reads "27 Pure Badger" but I am curious about the style of brush (Emperor 2 ?), approx age, how long does it generally takes for a brush to "turn" butterscotch, etc...

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I'm loving this brush and would really appreciate any input.

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 02-25-2013, 06:23 PM
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  • bullgoose
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Gary Young could probably give you the complete lowdown on your brush. Great looking handle.

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 02-25-2013, 06:26 PM
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  • ben74
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Similar to the AS2 (but without the Tulip "lip") and AS2M. I recall reading that the suggestion was that it was made to celebrate the success of the company and possibly stands for Alex Simpson 2 Million. I think it is more likely representative of who it was made for... "Abraham & Straus."

Gary Young will definitely be your man on this one!


Some similar models:

   
AS2

   
AS2M

   
AS3

   
BA8

   
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 02-25-2013, 06:26 PM
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Thanks, I PM'd Gary last night and have my fingers crossed that he'll give me his input.

(02-25-2013, 06:23 PM)bullgoose Wrote:  Gary Young could probably give you the complete lowdown on your brush. Great looking handle.

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 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM
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  • ben74
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Simpsons produced a 26 too...
   
The sticker on the 26 will be a good indicator to age of the 27...

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 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM
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Gary will reply sooner or later. He doesn't visit as often as he has in the past, but he will get the message.

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 02-25-2013, 06:42 PM
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(02-25-2013, 06:35 PM)Johnny Wrote:  Gary will reply sooner or later. He doesn't visit as often as he has in the past, but he will get the message.

Especially when he sees some of the truly vintage stuff. Biggrin

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 02-25-2013, 06:48 PM
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GD,

Thanks (in public) for all the support, you are a rare find.

(02-25-2013, 06:42 PM)GDCarrington Wrote:  
(02-25-2013, 06:35 PM)Johnny Wrote:  Gary will reply sooner or later. He doesn't visit as often as he has in the past, but he will get the message.

Especially when he sees some of the truly vintage stuff. Biggrin

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 02-25-2013, 06:53 PM
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(02-25-2013, 06:48 PM)Markh58 Wrote:  GD,

Thanks (in public) for all the support, you are a rare find.

(02-25-2013, 06:42 PM)GDCarrington Wrote:  
(02-25-2013, 06:35 PM)Johnny Wrote:  Gary will reply sooner or later. He doesn't visit as often as he has in the past, but he will get the message.

Especially when he sees some of the truly vintage stuff. Biggrin

Your most welcome.

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 02-25-2013, 06:59 PM
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I'm no expert, but I'm guessing 1950's Nimmer Mill...

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 02-25-2013, 07:24 PM
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  • Teiste
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Thats a very nice looking brush.
I hope that Mr Gary Young could bring more info , and if he does through a pm , please , post it here : we all want to know.

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 02-25-2013, 08:04 PM
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1950's I understand but "Nimmer Mill" ?4
Sorry for missing the reference I am still trying to rum off my newbie skin...Biggrin

(02-25-2013, 06:59 PM)ben74 Wrote:  I'm no expert, but I'm guessing 1950's Nimmer Mill...

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 02-25-2013, 08:08 PM
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From Gary Young's Simpson Timeline 1919 to 1990

"1941 - Agreement made between Coates Brushes Ltd and Great Uncle Alex for Simpson to move lock, stock and barrel to Nimmer Mill to share the factory. Simpson had been the sole maker of Coates branded brushes since they first appeared on the market so it was an easy arrangement. Also Coates were struggling and part of the agreement was for Simpson to buy out Coates within 1 year of moving to Nimmer, Somerset."

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 02-25-2013, 08:08 PM
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  • celestino
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Wow, what a beautiful handle!

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 02-25-2013, 08:16 PM
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Thanks, that's very interesting and most helpful.

(02-25-2013, 08:08 PM)ben74 Wrote:  From Gary Young's Simpsons Timeline

"1941 - Agreement made between Coates Brushes Ltd and Great Uncle Alex for Simpson to move lock, stock and barrel to Nimmer Mill to share the factory. Simpson had been the sole maker of Coates branded brushes since they first appeared on the market so it was an easy arrangement. Also Coates were struggling and part of the agreement was for Simpson to buy out Coates within 1 year of moving to Nimmer, Somerset."

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 02-25-2013, 08:18 PM
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All credit goes to Gary. His knowledge is equal to his passion...

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 02-25-2013, 08:28 PM
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Nice looking brush. Is that the one from eBay that was re-knotted by Simpsons last year?

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 02-25-2013, 08:31 PM
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I do believe it is John.

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 02-25-2013, 08:34 PM
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Yep, excited to have won it and even more so that I'm learning a bit more about it's heritage.

BTW thanks to everyone who's given me their 2cents, worth much more then that of course.

(02-25-2013, 08:28 PM)churchilllafemme Wrote:  Nice looking brush. Is that the one from eBay that was re-knotted by Simpsons last year?

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 02-25-2013, 09:22 PM
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I'll hazard a guess at the date and say 1960, Nimmer Mill. I have no expertise, however.

The deepening/richness of the colour depends on a few variables, but it has mainly to do with exposure to UV light, which converts the Catalin/phenolic resin to phenolic acid. Depends, therefore, where the brush stood over the years. If it was perched on a window-sill, that might explain the rich colour. Others were kept in the relative dark, just by virtue of circumstance. Whatever you do, don't try to rub the handle back: the butterscotch is only on the surface. If you go too hard at it, you'll expose the white Catalin underneath, and you wouldn't want that.

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